With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.

And in “tell Us Something we Didn’t Already Know” news.

  • Myxomatosis@lemmy.world
    283·
    7 hours ago

    I didn’t really know what the Green Party was until a few years ago. I originally thought Green meant pro-environment but it really just stands for green cash money from Daddy Vlad.

    • SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      272·
      8 hours ago

      I hate how they’ve spammed their way into turning this community into 90% conversations about irrelevant 3rd parties.

      Every post is either by them or something meant to dunk on them.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
        35·
        5 hours ago

        That’s such a ridiculous claim that I bothered to count.

        There’s been 4 posts about anything regarding 3rd parties out of 31 in the last 24h and that’s much MORE than usual!

        Sounds like you’re just hypersensitive about being reminded that the two party duopoly is only ALMOST complete 🙄

        • SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          41·
          2 hours ago

          Yes that was hyperbolic, I see these posts on my feed on a daily basis, and it’s filled with dozens of rehashed comments bickering about the validity of third parties. It’s getting far more attention here than it deserves when there are tons of actual, real political issues in the world.

          I’ll be the first to say that I hate both major parties, but I have the political literacy to understand that the way to fix it is not by voting for someone with questionable ties to Russia that seems to pop up out of nowhere every four years.

          If you guys actually cared to solve the issues you’d be campaigning to first and foremost get electoral reform to make third parties even remotely viable instead of trying to work within this extremely broken, barely democratic system. You’d also be doing work at a local level where real change can be made to movement rather than just throwing a candidate out for president every election. You won’t do that though because you’re all a bunch of weird idealists with fantastical views of how politics work. I’m interested in following news thats grounded in reality

          • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
            15·
            3 hours ago

            If you guys

            I’m not one of “those guys” advocating specific 3rd party candidates. Sadly, none of the current choices are viable.

            I’m just pointing out your overreaction, which is just as much of a distraction from the REAL issues you pretend to care about.

            actually cared to solve the issues

            Yeah, because mentioning 3rd parties means that you don’t care about anything else at all. What a galaxy brained take 🙄

            campaigning to to first and foremost get electoral reform to make third parties even remotely viable instead of trying to work within this extremely broken, barely democratic system.

            That’s exactly what I’m doing, depending on how wide your definition of “campaigning” is. Just because I correct your hysteria doesn’t mean that you have to create a strawman of me that totes loves Jill Stein or whatever 🙄

            You’d also be doing work at a local politics where real change can be made

            In my case, “local” is part of Denmark, a country with a much better election system. Doesn’t mean that I can’t have knowledge and opinions about US politics and the kinds of absolutist “us or them” language that bears some of the responsibility for the duopoly surviving in spite of what the vast majority of the population wants.

            Also, just FYI: assuming that everyone is able to be active in local politics beyond online discussions reeks of privilege and ableism.

            rather than just throwing a candidate out for president every election

            Again lumping me in with a group to which I don’t belong.

            You won’t do that though because you’re all a bunch of weird idealists with fantastical views of how politics work

            Aaand again. Are you going for some kind of record in strawmen and jumping to conclusions? Because if so, you’re doing an excellent job so far.

            I’m interested in following news thats grounded in reality

            Me too. I’m also interested in discussing the news using language grounded in reality, rather than weird hyperbole making a small minority out to be a dominant force and tormentor ruining everything.

            • SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              41·
              2 hours ago

              As much as I’m tempted, I’m not interested in getting to a debate with you about this. For someone mad about me ‘jumping to conclusions’ you sure made a whole lot of assumptions about me that aren’t really true.

              Whether my rant was directed at you, or one of the handful of other Jill Stein nutjobs on here doesn’t really matter, I’ve said my piece.

              Have a great day.

              • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
                1·
                43 minutes ago

                For someone mad about me ‘jumping to conclusions’ you sure made a whole lot of assumptions about me that aren’t really true.

                Which ones specifically? I did you the courtesy of being specific about how and where you were wrong about me. If you’re gonna go “no you!”, tit would behoove you to do the same rather than being as vague as a teenager posting on Facebook on a bad day.

                Whether my rant was directed at you, or one of the handful of other Jill Stein nutjobs

                I specifically informed you that I don’t consider any of the third party candidates viable and have not said anything to the contrary to indicate that I supports Stein in any way. I don’t, for the record.

                I’m not interested in getting to a debate with you about this.

                Because you don’t have any counterarguments. You just lie, misrepresent, and demand that everyone believes you. Which seems to be working in this case since it’s taking place in a pro-DNC echo chamber almost half as tribalist as the fascist ones.

                I’ve said my piece.

                Now I have too. Have the day you deserve.

    • Soup@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
      201·
      8 hours ago

      Many of them are surprisingly silent on the matter.

      It’s refreshing.

    • Jesus@lemmy.world
      21·
      5 hours ago

      I don’t see them in the comments. They’re probably on lunch break with that linkerbaan person.

  • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.eeEnglish
    398·
    8 hours ago

    If the green party even actually cared about the shit they purport to care about, they’d have been pro nuclear. That’s all I needed to hear in order to know they were worth absolutely none of my attention.

    • Soup@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
      435·
      8 hours ago

      They also be active more than one out of every four years. You NEVER hear a word about any of them between elections. They’re spoilers. Nothing more.

      The veil is lifted finally.

      • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.eeEnglish
        10·
        8 hours ago

        What might have had some efficacy as an auxiliary party is if the organization promoted specific extant primary candidates, perhaps. To assist more progressive candidates in becoming the nominees for various electoral races. AND in local elections, not JUST the big one every four years like you said!

        We’ve seen this work (to our detriment) with the ‘tea party’ -_- all i’m saying is, it pisses me off that we leave that kind of weaponry on the table when these fucking chud scum manage to pull it off.

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      4 hours ago

      “Green” and “pro nuclear” go together like peas and carrots. Unless one flunked elementary school science class.

  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    194·
    9 hours ago

    Jill Stein is the latest in an interminable line of Green Party fucknuts “killing” the Green Party.

    Next.

  • CondensedPossum@lemmy.world
    15·
    6 hours ago

    if you’re telling me that there’s a compromised candidate who isn’t pursuing the stated goals of their party or the best interests of their voter base, I- I- I-'d I’d have to cock an eye at you and wonder what your agenda was fella

    pure nonsense, imagine

    just glad my party isn’t one of those, whichever one that’s convenient for the reader

  • eacapesamsara@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    735·
    8 hours ago

    Given the ridiculous amount of money being poured into anti green sentiment and lawsuits by the Dems, it seems like they’re threatened.

    Maybe we can have a somewhat left wing party when Dems lose again and can’t blame the greens or Bernie bros or other scape goats for their own failure to represent popular policies.

    • Soup@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
      286·
      8 hours ago

      Threatened by Russian shills and spoiler campaigns by useless candidates that talk a lot and say nothing?

      Yeah.

      That’s a lot to be treated by. Especially when democrat hangs in the balance. Your lady is busted bro. The truth is out.

      Go sit down somewhere.

      • eacapesamsara@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        630·
        8 hours ago

        I’m sorry your owners are paying literally millions from your campaign donations to sue the green party in multiple states, on top of funding easily debunked stories like the Russian connection. It must suck to have your donations wasted like that.

        I’m sorry I trust a medical doctor more than your candidate that has never worked a non government job.

        • Soup@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
          214·
          7 hours ago

          My “owners?”

          Care to explain exactly what you meant by this?

            • Soup@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
              43·
              6 hours ago

              I vote for who I believe has the collective best interest of this country in mind, while holding the office with dignity, humility and respect for the individuality of this country’s citizens.

              If they’re a democrat- I’m voting for them.

              If the Green Party offers someone that can prove that they intend to take the job seriously, and doesn’t just pretend that shit matters one year out of every four…. I’d be happy to give them my support.

              Until then, it’s democrats down the line.

                • Soup@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
                  72·
                  5 hours ago

                  No. I’m not voting for a spoiler Russian shill or a spoiler place holder.

                  JFK JR doesn’t even register as qualified in my book.

                  Harris all the fucking way to a living breathing democracy. After that, we start over and see what we have.

                  But your Green Party is a fucking joke. It’s over. Stein destroyed it.

    • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
      141·
      8 hours ago

      Popular policies like investing into green energy, capping prescription drug prices, appropriately regulating business, helping students with the price of college, raising taxes on the wealthy and helping first time homebuyers get a house?

      • eacapesamsara@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        217·
        8 hours ago

        Sure, trump did two of those, Biden has done one but promised more, and those don’t touch the problems Americans actually have, like affording rent and groceries while dealing with record inflation and failing economy for all but the wealthiest. If Dems kept half their promises they’d still be 80s Republicans, but at least people wouldn’t be becoming homeless at the fastest rate in US history.