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She has presidential material. that’s why conservative media was so quick to try to vilify her.
I also assume that’s why she’s pretending to play ball with Harris. If she continued being an actual progressive the Democrats would never let her get nominated.
I don’t want her to be NYC mayor, either. I want her to be President!
You’ll have to wait at least a year (or four for the next election). She’s legally too young to run for president as she’s only 34.
Seconded.
As much as this is the dream, she is not electable in American politics for president.
American society is clearly too far behind
She’s obviously Bernie’s heir apparent and will replace him as The Left Wing Democrat to come in 2nd in the primaries now that he’s too old and she’s old enough.
On a more optimistic note, a true heir to Bernie will know how to negotiate with the center left to accomplish some of their goals in exchange for the support of progressives to win elections.
I’d LOVE to see her run in 2028.
It’s too soon. She’s young; we want her to help the progressive cause for years and decades to come. If she were to become president in 2028, she would be retiring after she served, like every other president does, and we would lose her voice.
Yeah better wait til she got old and lost her best abilities right? 8 years are 8 years no?
she would be retiring after she served, like every other president does, and we would lose her voice.
That’s not a rule, you know. John Quincy Adams served in the House after being President, Andrew Johnson became a Senator, and Taft got appointed to the SCOTUS.
I don’t know about Quincy adams, but the other two do not represent what I want more of in American politics
The point is that retiring from open politics is a choice, not a requirement.
Exactly. I mean just look at how a former President conducted the dismissal of bipartisan border legislation!
Fair point.
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Being NYC Mayor is harder than being President. You’ve got the same 24/7 spotlight and much less actual power.
If Giuliani could do it how hard can it be? Seems that you don’t even have to have a grasp on reality.
9/11 era Giuliani was more coherent. The man is losing it.
9/11 era Giuliani was also more or less working directly with the Russian mob, because he did a great job in the years leading up to it of scraping out the Italian mob (say what you will about them, but at the end of the day, they were staunch anti-fascists), leaving an enormous power vacuum that the Russian mob quietly filled. It was very much a situation of “better the devil you know” that was categorically and intentionally ignored. Organized crime is of course not great, but at the same time, the Russian mob is on a whole different level - not to mention, they’re effectively a branch of the Russian state.
You mean the same Giuliani who lost an election and took a mob of racisr police to occupy city hall to prevent a black guy from being sworn in as mayor?
Someone lied to you.
David Dinkins was Mayor before Giuliani.
He lost his election.
Rudy did bring a mob of cops to city hall, but they never “occupied” it.
I hate Rudy as much as anyone, but keep the facts straight.
The man is losing it.
LOL that happened a long time ago.
In some ways you have more concentrated power.
To quote a mayor of NYC: “I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in the world. I have my own State Department, much to Foggy Bottom’s annoyance. We have the United Nations in New York, and so we have an entree into the diplomatic world that Washington does not have.”
Why would she want to demote herself to mayor? That wouldn’t make any sense.
Mayor is generally a demotion. Mayor of NYC is like being an authoritarian over a small but major nation with large, critical economy and the 7th largest army in the world. So arguably that would actually be a large step up for AOC, if we’re just talking about pure power and authority.
NYC is 7.4% of the US economy. I’m saying that to agree with you, that’s bigger than Florida, bigger than every state other than CA, TX, and (obviously) NY.
and (obviously) NY.
Stupid recursion
Thanks to the antics of old time Mayor Jimmy Walker and Tammany Hall, a lot of NY’s power is controlled by the Governor of NY State.
That’s really only true with the emergency powers of the governors office. Given the power to appoint 40+ commissioners in NYC and the de facto power the mayor exerts over NYC (despite de jure description) is immense. Give the political, police, and financial power of NYC, I would say the mayor still exerts more authority than the governor.
That being said, the governor of NYC has the power to declare a state of emergency and wildly broaden his power to near authoritarian levels. If that were to occur and then the governor and mayor were to somehow end up toe-to-toe, it would be interesting. But in actual practice, I think that might be a more even match up than you think.
On the other hand, the mayor is point man for literally hundreds of crises. Lindsay had a good shot at becoming President, and lost it because of a snowstorm; Dinkins got screwed by a Korean grocery store boycott.
All three major networks have stations in NYC, plus Fox News and CNN, plus the NY Times and the Wall Street Journal. That’s not counting the Congressional delegation and the New York Stock Exchange.
The mayor is under a microscope with no Secret Service protection.
Now let’s pivot to what ‘real power’ is. Let’s put Lex Luthor as US President and as NYC Mayor. Either way, Lex can have one person killed anywhere in the world, but only as President can he start a war of bring a nation to their knees.
I estimate that Lex could get a billion in brides and kickbacks in one term in office; he could call the Saudis on Inauguration Day and have $50 billion in a Swiss account by the ned of the business day.
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