• drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    I am just going to wait until the prices go down in the fall and there is still plenty left and then buy a PC instead.

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    11 hours ago

    This makes no sense. Why would a company want their product to be sold out? The goal is to balance supply and demand. So they SHOULDN’T sell out. It’s not a limited edition product or anything. This post is sensationalized as fuck.

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      4 hours ago

      He’s saying that it’s a good thing it hasn’t sold out yet, allowing it to have plenty of supply for Christmas season. It’s a good thing due to the PS5 previously being sold out everywhere last Christmas.

      While I think it’s still too high a price point for me personally, it’s at least a logical increase in price because supply and demand has caused it to be increased.

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      10 hours ago

      I think they’re implying a comparison to the PS4. It was notoriously difficult to get a PS4 for months after it’s release because it was constantly sold out

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    The supply chain problems of covid REALLY broke everyone.

    Consoles selling out is actually “bad”. Why? Because they are closed gardens. If people can go down to best buy or browse amazon and pick up a console they are more likely to buy a few games to go with it. Rather than needing to frantically monitor five different discord servers to get into a queue as fast as possible to MAYBE get one. The former encourages browsing and impulse buys. The latter is basically only for people with very targeted shopping lists.

    Also… it is not even October. MAYBE come early November you can start to make these assessments for that most holy of holidays, Black Friday. But hell day and xmas are still months out and the holiday rush of shopping hasn’t begun yet.

    I personally see nothing compelling about the ps5 pro. But this is the equivalent of buying an xbox and saying microsoft are going to win because they have a stronger supply chain.

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    Even though nobody from the government wants to admit it, the proof is in the pudding. North America is in a recession. People don’t have $700 extra + the cost of the disc drive and stand, to throw down on a console that’s only marginally better than the same console that’s been out for 5 years now.

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      8 hours ago

      I don’t know about recession, but I know I’ve hit a personal inflection point with prices where I’m just sick of the bullshit and only buy if absolutely necessary, or on sale.

      Everyone is so fucking greedy, everyone wants just 5 more dollars bro to the point where the consumerism has been driven out of me.

      I actually have money to buy shit, I just don’t want to anymore because nothing seems to correspond to its value anymore.

      A new car? 35 k for a fucking base kia, gtfo out with this shit.

      New phone? 1.2k for the same screen bullshit as the last 5 years.

      Same with this PS5, they are pricing this shit like it’s lifesaving medicine, when in reality it’s just shit no-one really needs

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        35k for a base Kia? Hell naw, I bought a fully loaded 2024 hyundai elentra hybrid for 34k out the door. Base Kia K4 is 22k plus tax title and reg. That’s like almost a third less than what I paid lol

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      10 hours ago

      We also don’t give a shit.

      If you own a PS5 already, it doesn’t offer you much and if you own a PC, it offers you less.

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        I have a PS5 with the disc drive, which I paid extra for. I don’t see any reason to get this when it doesn’t even come with that. The performance of the base PS5 has been very good. If it’s just a hardware boost, I don’t really need it. I don’t get the purpose of upgrading. The battlefield games I play run like butter, and the new titles, like Dead Space that I’ve played also run great.

        This just runs better? Not necessary to me.

        And I do own a gaming PC. I just prefer having a dedicated game console for a couple good reasons.

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      Curious to how the lone downvoter views this topic. They disagree with me apparently, but on what point? The fact that people don’t want to spend $700+ on a marginal upgrade? Do they though? The fact that we’re in a recession? We are though. They bought a PS5 Pro and are actively experiencing buyer’s remorse so they have to chime in on every PS5 Pro post with a symbolic “nuh uh”? Probably.

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        Not the down voter, but as a day 1 PS5 buyer who could afford the pro I will just say they didn’t offer any value to me. I’ve played 1 game on the PS5 that I couldn’t have on my base PS4 (Demon’s Souls) and I could play the original of that on my PS3. They promised all of this great stuff on the PS5 and under delivered. Why would I put down the $700 why would I spend that when I hardly even use my PS5 and even when I do I could’ve just used my PS4?

      • Anas@lemmy.world
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        12 hours ago

        you did not just make a whole comment responding to one single downvote

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        11 hours ago

        I’m not arguing for or against being a recession. But the sales for this console don’t prove or deny a recession, they just show that either no one actually wants this thing or Sony has managed to misjudge demand.

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    17 hours ago

    Why buy a console when for roughly the same price you could buy a PC that does everything the console does and more? Yeah $700 is an insane price for what is effectively a toy.

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      Also $700 isn’t going to buy you much of a PC if you don’t have one already. Maybe mid spec 1080p.

      Not that I’m arguing for PC. I’m pro-console in most circumstances. Only for power modders, power gamers or power purchasers would I maybe argue that PC is the better route. Everyone else, console 100% (except this joke of a console).

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      17 hours ago

      It’s about the same as the inflation-adjusted PS3 price, but here’s the thing: the PS3 had a difficult first couple of years. If not for the Red Ring of Death, Microsoft could have come out ahead that generation. One thing Sony is good at is capitalizing on its competitors’ mistakes, and combined with price reductions on later models, they pulled out a victory. Being >$750 inflation-adjusted dollars at launch wasn’t why it won.

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      Because PCs are worse for living room/controller gameplay, you have to deal with Windows or Linux, and many other factors?

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        I very much enjoy playing PC games with a controller on a big TV away from my desk. With an optical HDMI cable I’ve never had issues pushing 4k, 120hz, and HDR. Bluetooth mice and keyboards are incredibly common. And 8BitDo’s “Ultimate” controller has been really great over 2.4ghz.

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    The PS5 in general has just felt like a nebulous console. I don’t know if it’s just me not being as connected to console gaming anymore or what, but there’s no PS5 games that are “must play” or anything that I’ve seen/read/heard hype about that has made me really interested. Partly there was the Covid years where it was apparently facing shortages and during that I just switched my mind off to the idea that I’d ever buy one. It’s been out for years now though, but nothing about it makes me care to move on from our PS4 that’s still chugging along.

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    The price alone isn’t the problem.

    If the launch came paired with great new games it would be a whole different story, like as if it would be a new generation console like a PS6 with new exclusive games I doubt that the price would even be an issue. People would still complain, but they’ll get over it.

    From what I’ve seen it’s practically only PS5 ‘Pro Enhanced’ games, which are mostly games that have been around many years already. Plus it doesn’t have a disc drive so it’s more expensive if you want disc support too.

    I still got an original PS5 (with disc drive), I mostly only played PS exclusive games and a few games that I prefer on console, it’s perfectly capable of doing 4k and/or high resolution graphics and framerates depending on the game. I don’t see a reason to upgrade to the Pro at all. And I think new players are more likely to just go for the PS5 Slim instead.

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      Yep. This gen has been pretty barren when it comes to AAA games that aren’t remasters/remakes and it’s not just exclusives. The handful of AAA games I want to play run perfectly fine on my low spec PC. Sure not at 4k60, but upgrading my pc or buying a PS5 pro just for those few games just isn’t worth it.

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    It’s not the price point. Most of the people who’d be in the market for one wouldn’t buy it because it doesn’t take discs. When I bought my PS5, I specifically bought the disc version. So I’m not going to ‘upgrade’ to a machine that doesn’t have one and only really offers ‘improved performance’ as its main selling point. It just doesn’t make sense.

    If you’re new to the platform and are used to buying only digital, it might be more palatable. But as someone who’s been with Sony since the very first PlayStation: I’m gonna pass.

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      I think everyone should ditch consoles too, but I don’t understand the “no games” comment, I’ve played through Elden Ring, Returnal, Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Intergrade, Ratchet & Clank, Gran Turismo 7…

      There are clearly games for it, what gives?

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        There are only like 2 or 3 games that can only be played on a PS5 and nowhere else. Exclusives are one of, if not the most important part of getting a console, IMO. Like, why would I get this specific console if I could get any console or a PC and play the same games? I’m either going to get what’s cheapest or go full bells and whistles and build a beefy PC.

        Most of the PS5’s exclusive games are actually just PS4 games and don’t even have the enhancement features offered by the PS5’s hardware. If you have a PS4, there’s really no reason to upgrade to a PS5 unless you really wanna play the Demon Souls remaster or Astro Bot. Out of all the games you mentioned, only GT7 (and Retrograde tho I don’t know if that is timed or completely exclusive; they pulled some fucky-wucky with that one) is exclusive. All the others are multiplatform.

        That’s also why the PS5 Pro is just dumb. There’s not much taking advantage of the current hardware, and they wanna sell you more hardware to go underutilized ?

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          All that stuff about exclusive games just sounds like sunk cost fallacy. I don’t understand how a consumer benefits in any way from exclusive titles, or how a consumer is harmed from having access to multiplatform games.

          If someone gets a PS5 for a PS5 exclusive game, why wouldn’t they want the option to play other games on there as well?

          I do ultimately agree with you though, the PS5 Pro is dumb - and neither the regular PS5 nor any Xbox seems worthwhile compared to PC gaming

          • It’s gotta have some reason to buy it. If it’s not the price, and it’s not the power, it’s the library. Sunk costs don’t even come into play for someone who is looking to get a game machine trying to decide what to buy.

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      uh what are you even talking about?? It has block-buster console sellers like Concord

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        I can’t wait to buy movies from Sony only to have them invalidated a few years from now.