The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.

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    With all this stuff about Jill coming out, it’s no wonder all the Lemmy.ml and Hexbears are so supportive of her. She’s a Russian asset!

    What is the Russian word for Wumao?

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      It could just be she made a career out of unsucessfully running for president and doesn’t care where the money came from.

      That’s supposedly how the whole Trump mess started.

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        You mean him just wanting to make money by running for president never actually expecting to run and regretting every minute of it while trying to be so vile he could never get elected again only to realize that’s what his base wants?

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      Are you confusing the Green candidate, Jill Stein with Claudia De la Cruz, the PSL candidate?

      She does deserve praise for taking the correct stance regarding Gaza, but the general consensus of the Greens as a whole is that they’re useless because unlike PSL, they don’t organize between elections.

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        When did “Dick” Cheney campaign for Harris? He said he was voting for her rather than the felon. That’s it. Liz Cheney is the one who spoke at a Harris campaign, not her father.

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          He didn’t. And Stein refused to say Putin is a war criminal. John Richard is in here lying through his teeth.

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        Lol your defense of her is “anyone could be a Russian asset!” is like a textbook denial list. What’s the next stage?

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            Nah you’re just a lier, that’s all.
            I didn’t realize I presented evidence of anything, but ok.

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                claiming Jill Stein works for Russia but they don’t have any facts to support it.

                Everyone in this photo works for Putin and were there at the behest of Putin. Two Americans are in this photo. One was put in jail for a while because they lied about working for foreign actors, least of which is Russia. I’ll leave it to you to see who the other one is.

                All this evidence of Stein actively using GOP (and thus Russia) aligned assets/money and refusing to denounce Russia in any capacity until forced, only further drives nails in the coffin.

                Take a hike.

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                    Oh, here’s a picture for you BTW that using your logic shows that Biden works for Putin.

                    …You know there is this thing called talks with world leaders on a global stage as a politician,

                    Incorrect equivalency, invalid argument. The difference there is Biden is the elected President of the United States. It is quite literally HIS JOB to meet with foreign heads of state, including Putin. I don’t suspect him of collaborating when he has public meetings with a foreign power. Hell, I don’t even suspect Trump when he had those meetings because it was unfortunately also his job. it was all the other shady shit we learn about and pro-Putin comments he’s made.
                    Stein is an unelected nobody with less than zero power in the US, except for the fact that she participates in and disrupts American elections. She has NO rights as an American citizen to be discussing anything with a foreign power that may be related to elections or policy or relations, which I guarantee she did at that dinner table. This is called the Logan Act, and she is an unauthorized representative.

                    Again, let me repeat this. SHE IS NOT A POLITICIAN, SHE IS AN UNELECTED CANDIDATE. SHE HAS ZERO RIGHT TO BE INTERACTING WITH ANY FOREIGN POWER IN ANY CAPACITY.

                    Jill Stein called Putin a war criminal.

                    After weaseling around the word for over 5 minutes in an interview, both-sidesing it the entire time, then releasing a half hearted press release the day after as damage control. Such a transparently obvious agenda that had to get “approved” before posting, it’s painful.

                    but you’re not demanding that Biden or Harris call Netanyahu a war criminal.

                    Words in my mouth, not relevant. I absolutely think Netanyahu is a war criminal and should be called as much, but we aren’t talking about him right now are we? Just had to make stuff up that I didn’t say.

                    You know who else Russia helped? Bernie Sanders. According to your logic, if Russia helped Bernie Sander’s campaign then he must be a Russian agent.

                    Correct, but he called them out on it and actively rejected any of their support.. Stein has made no such public rejection of their support. Also, maybe this should make you think really long and hard about why Russia might also want to support Stein and Trump this time around?

                    No offense, but this thread is over, because I am not going to waste any more time arguing with a bad-faith brick wall who is only here to spread misinformation. The outlined points above are for everyone else on the Fediverse. Have a nice work week!

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        Is it any different than a socialist that accuses anyone that disagrees with them of being a genocide supporter?

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          I mean if you keep funding genocide to the tune of billions when kids can’t eat at school and veterans are homeless, it’s not not supporting genocide.

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            Tell us you have no idea how any of this works after it’s been already been explained to you a thousand times without telling us you have no idea how any of this works after it’s been already been explained to you a thousand times.

            The “funding of genocide” as you call it is actually an agreement that the US has had with Israel for decades. And unless you know exactly what that agreement details, and have a firm understanding of how nuanced diplomacy works outside of video games, I’d suggest that instead of being a smart-ass on the internet about things you don’t understand- you read up on how it all works.

            Because it Is in NO WAY supporting genocide to continue a pact agreed upon. And if you think the US can just cancel that- you REALLY need to brush up on how this shit actually works in the real world.

            It’s VERY complicated.

            NPR had leading experts on this exact thing a few mornings ago. Even they said when asked why the US continues to uphold this agreement- that it isn’t easy to get out of these things without escalating the situation.

            So unless you know more about this than they do- maybe stop arguing with everyone when they tell you you’re wrong.