• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Then she should have messaged better on Israel. On that particular item I also feel like Netanyahu is on a timeline. I’m not sure he cares about the election though. More like he’s trying to get us pulled into a conflict with Iran before January because Biden can’t stand up to him. If he thinks Biden is just locked by the election then he’ll try to do it this month. Harris’ messaging doesn’t really take that into account in my opinion.

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      1 month ago

      Then she should have messaged better on Israel

      I’d much rather her do more than message better, but i’d take clear messaging over whatever the fuck we’ve been getting.

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          1 month ago

          There’s no such thing as neutral - either we’re supporting Israel through their genocide or we’re not.

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            1 month ago

            Putting on my objective hat for a minute, pro Israel voters think the same way. There’s not really a neutral block of voters on this issue.

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      1 month ago

      There is no candidate who can win this race that won’t keep writing blank checks for Israel. If anything, Netanyahu wants Trump to win. He is enraged by even the minimal pushback he gets from the Biden administration.

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        1 month ago

        There’s a chance Harris is more like Obama and reigns in everything but iron dome reloads, while actually holding them responsible for settler violence. If your standard is completely disengage from Israel then yeah we aren’t there yet politically. Although shooting at the UN might just fucking do it.

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          1 month ago

          That’s sure not what she’s running on.

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            1 month ago

            She’s trying to stay neutral, Israel has a right to exist, there must be an immediate cease-fire, etc. This in contrast to Biden parroting the IDF’s PR. She is clearly not as pro Israel as Biden.

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              Countries have no right to exist. They exist because they can. An apartheid ethnostate certainly has no right to exist or right to our support. If Israel has a right to exist, what about Palestine?

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                1 month ago

                I agree with you. I’m just laying out why Harris might be better for Palestinians than Biden.