“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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    4, not the 7 they wanted or deserved. he doesn’t get any credit for this. he broke the strike weakening their position.

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      I’m partially agreeing, I want to point out that they did get 7 days allotted.

      Not all 7 of those are from sick time, so you’ve got a point.

      I find it a reach to say the administration gets no credit when it’s definitely been assigned to them on multiple fronts for the effort.

      Congress was involved here too. Do you think our president should be a despot?

      Were you directly involved in negotiations?

      The people who were directly involved, gave the Biden administration credit for an assist.

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        Dig deeper the people who gave credit were the same members who didn’t support the strike in the first place. iirc.

        I blame everyone involved who voted to break the strike. don’t try to assert for me things I havent asserted.

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          So you don’t acknowledge when you’re wrong, and will continue to move goalposts. You’re taking a defensive posture.

          It’s becoming clear now.

          You’re a bad faith actor.

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            You’re of course welcome to continue believing that. Thats of course your prerogative. But I’m just going to point to the results since they speak for themselves.

            Harris is missing 20million votes. You were warned and decided that arguing with me about the lesser evil ‘optimal voting strategy’ than realizing the danger harris was putting you in was a good idea. 👍 Good job. Now go convince those 20million other individuals since you’ve failed here.

            You know what they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink. (I know you struggle with analogies, you’re the 🐴)

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              Yes please, tell us how marxists and leninists will save humanity and not be the same as it ever was and always has been.

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                  Ok. What solution do you have that will work?

                  Please, elaborate on a working solution.

                  Do you have anything realistic that can change the results of citizens united vs FEC’s ruling?

                  You said you warned us, but your cake day is not old enough to account for that. You’re lying or you’ve been banned for being what you are.

                  I’m discussing facts with a bad faith actor. I’m looking for your true colors.

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                    You spouting words doesn’t make them true.

                    Yes, there are solutions to these problems. they’ve been well discussed by many people over many years. I won’t be engaging with you specifically here because well frankly your not worth my time and we’re well off base from the original conversation on Biden being a fucking strike breaker. which he, and congress, empirically were.

                    Am I happy he got them 4(!) days of sick leave? sure. do I think he fucking absolutely short changed them? 100%. you don’t get credit for not pushing someone off the ledge just because you patched up their leg. You’ve been told to look deeper at the union groups involved and which ones played with the biden admin vs which ones were actually on strike. go do your homework. I’m happy to be proven wrong here. this is half recalled information. But beyond that shrug.