Summary
Palestinians in the West Bank are largely pessimistic about Donald Trump’s re-election, viewing it as unlikely to significantly worsen their already dire situation, though some fear it could embolden Israeli actions.
Trump’s support for Israel’s far-right policies, including the potential dismantling of the UN agency Unrwa and backing of Israeli settlements, could deepen economic hardship and escalate violence against Palestinians.
While some Palestinians worry about increased oppression, others see a Trump presidency as a chance to expose brutal realities, possibly sparking stronger resistance.
I’m betting trump puts his fingers in his ears, tells netanyahu to get it over as fast as possible, then surveys his victory with a look of triumph on his face.
That or bibi throws everything at Gaza these next 3 months so the next administration can blame it on Biden.
Love this comments section in denial because they refused to read past the title in both the post and article that clearly states most Palestinians don’t expect a difference.
The Palestinians in the biggest city on the West Bank seem to have already come to a provisional consensus: that the US election result has no real impact here because things could not possibly be worse.
The recently fired Israeli defense minister was allegedly claiming all the military objectives in Gaza were achieved, and that there’s no need for ignoring a hostage deal.
So I’m really failing to see how this isn’t already rock bottom.
13 straight months of giving Israel a free pass, Trump literally can’t improve the maxed out arm sales even if he tried.
And I can bet you my life saving Biden will do jack shit to stop Israel in his remaining 3 months even though he has nothing to lose.
Man we’re gonna have to open like dozens of new zoos for all the leopards absolutely feasting on people’s faces. When Trump warp speeds the deletion of Gaza, you get what you fucking deserve.
Wait… you’re not suggesting that voting for the lesser of two evils would’ve somehow helped the Palestinians somehow (or at least lessened the negative impacts)? Everyone knows that you either get everything you want or you just let the worst possible result happen, there is no middle ground.
And throws anyone caught in public with a palestinian flag in jail…they really showed it to genocide Joe.
People standing up for Palestine didn’t vote for fucking Trump. They mostly begrudgingly voted for Harris.
I’m not going to cast judgement on actual Palestinians who had their entire bloodlines erased by the Biden / Harris administration not being able to stomach voting for Harris.
Regardless, they weren’t a big enough voting block to sway the election.
The blame lies more with the DNC, Republicans, Trump. Hell 55% of Latino men voted for Trump.
Why couldn’t Biden / Harris do the bare minimum to stop sending countless bombs and weapons to Israel for an entire year of non-stop genocide? Are they completely guilt free in your mind?
Even if some Arab Americans couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Harris, they were not actively voting for Trump.
Palestinians have never done anything wrong except try to exist on their native land while undergoing decades of genocide while the world remained largely silent.
“You get what you fucking deserve.”
Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds. Don’t pretend you were ever on the left or ever stood against the genocide if that’s your attitude. You’re just trying to make it easy on yourself for not actually standing for anything and you’re just as guilty as those genocidal maniacs.
No no, I was told repeatedly that Trump would be no worse than Harris. Clearly the Palestinians on the ground are wrong somehow.
I too trust Russian Bots over real people /s
Palestinians in the West Bank are largely pessimistic about Donald Trump’s re-election, viewing it as unlikely to significantly worsen their already dire situation
Surely they meant “likely”?
though some fear it could embolden Israeli actions.
That last part of the sentence gives context that tells me they didn’t make a typo.
Seems contradictory, no?
No, what they’re saying is that their situation can’t get much worse than it already is
And that’s wrong.
No? It’s saying “most people think this, but a few others think this other thing.”
I can see how it can’t get much worse but it can go on for far longer than it otherwise would. Tell me again what the us recognizes as the capital of israel?
It can (and will) absolutely get far far worse in the West Bank.
I hate those type of article talking to 4 or 5 person than generalize it to the whole population. Palestinians are not a monolotic entity with only one opinion
While some Palestinians worry about increased oppression, others see a Trump presidency as a chance to expose brutal realities, possibly sparking stronger resistance.
This is most probably what will happen. Things will worsen but people will realize more of the double standard and the hard realities suffered by the Palestinians.
On the bright sight, public opinions on genocidal Israel will hardened and this will shape more restrictive and drastic international policies on Israel in the future. When that time comes, even Israel’s most powerful allies have to carefully manoeuvre in order to help them.
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Holy shit this persons comment history, would like to say welcome to Lemmy but probably there’s a reason you had to create a new account.
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Libs would rather hype the “greater evil” than oppose the genocide.
WE ALL OPPOSED THE FUCKING GENOCIDE.
That doesn’t mean we wanted to invite in ADDITIONAL GENOCIDES IN THE U.S.
Jesus Christ, I am so tired of seeing people make excuses for not voting to stop someone who you have been given warning sign after warning sign about because you don’t like Kamala Harris.
It also means that we didn’t want to make the one genocide they’re always on about even worse.
Seriously. “Harris is supporting genocide by being part of an administration selling weapons to Israel, so I’ll let the guy who told Netanyahu to finish the job on national TV win.” What the fuck?
I actually had someone tell me a month or so back that genocide is as bad as it gets and you can’t make it worse once it’s genocide.
These people will lie to themselves about anything rather than take some fucking responsibility.
I actually had someone tell me a month or so back that genocide is as bad as it gets and you can’t make it worse once it’s genocide
This was a very common argument I saw. Unfortunately, I think there are people who bought it. It’s so ahistorical, and nobody seems to know anything about the conditions in Germany pre-WW2 (or probably most of the atrocities that the Nazis committed).
There are levels to this shit, it’s not just an on/off switch.
They also wholly disregard that:
- “Weapons” is not a singular thing. There are defensive weapons, and offensive weapons. There is no method for undoing sales of defensive weapons. Congress says send 'em; they get sent.
- Offensive weapons can be paused, if said weapons are likely to be used in inhuman ways. In fact, Biden did exactly that – after House Republicans passed a bill to prevent him from doing it. That bill never made the floor of the Democratically controlled Senate.
- Congress is in charge of sending those weapons, not the president. If someone wants to “both sides” that one, I’m fine with that. But now that it’s looking like all three branches of government are going to be under fascist control, I’m not holding my breath about Congress changing their stance on any weapons sales to Israel, unless that change is MOAR WEPONZ.
Well, what did you expect? ML pretty much flooded this place with genocide Joe nonsense in a very real attempt to crush the west.
Oh this is exactly what I expected. It doesn’t make me any less angry about it.
Yeah: you don’t like personally Harris? Too bad you’d rather have a fascist government
I can’t wait to hear your weeping when the Trump backed MIC starts shovelling weapons to Israel, awards Netanyahu with the Medal of Freedom, and vetos any Israeli conviction by the ICC.
When both Gaza and the WB are completely annexed and Trump congratulates Netanyahu for a job well done while violently suppressing any US protests, I’m sure you’ll admit your refusing to vote for Harris was a great idea.
I don’t think you truly appreciate the shit storm that is coming your way. Because of you and your compatriots refusal to vote Dem Trump “will be a dictator on day one”. 13-20 million ‘illegal’ immigrants are promised to be deported. It is now possible anyone protesting, or even daring to speak out on social media (they’ll even look here I’m sure) against Israel’s actions will be included in that number. If I were you I’d get my licks in while I could, but use a VPN while doing it if it isn’t too late already.
It’s looking like the whole of US government is going to be majority Red through and through. That means any bill, including one for the formation of HUAC 2.0 gets rammed through. Oh well, at least you’ll have self-righteousness to console you going through whatever happens after January.
What will they say when kushner is building condos where Gaza was? Will that still be teaching Harris a lesson?
How has anyone opposed the genocide given the electoral outcome?
Opposing the genocide meant voting for Harris to avoid this exact situation.
There’s a smallish band of dipshits who care more about shouting about the genocide than stopping it. Not shouting about it (understandable and correct and good) and then stopping it. But actively not stopping it so they can shout.
The only chance–and it was only a chance–to save the Palestinians, was to keep Captain Dipshit away from the steering wheel and bust Harris’ balls incessantly until she did maybe half the right thing.
Because that option is better than what they’ve been doomed to now. But you don’t mind that. You have your purity, and that’s what your core value is.
Haha. Parlor pinks doing everything they can to get trump elected now complain about trump being elected. Love it.
You’re getting downvoted, but you’re correct…
Ah yes, four people I’ve never heard of that still actually use Twitter definitely proves them right.
