• That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml
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    Democrats are NOT leftists, they’re center right at best. They ultimately serve corporate interests and NOT the will of the people.

    You will never get universal healthcare, police reform, free college, less military spending, and other leftist ideals from the Democrat party because they’re not leftists. Doing these things runs counter to the interests of their corporate masters.

    We have a fascist party and a conservative party, but we don’t actually have a liberal party. We haven’t had one since before Clinton.

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      We don’t need a liberal party. We need a party that serves the interests of people, not corporations and oligarchs.

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      Democrats are NOT leftists, they’re center right at best.

      Americans are NOT leftists, they’re center right at best.

      Edit: Also, everyone loves to blame Democrats for turning conservative after Jimmy Carter, but have you looked at the election results from 1980? 1984? 1988?

      You run to represent the population you have, not the one you wish for.

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    People have got to stop believing that “things will just work out.”

    No, they won’t.

    We aren’t guaranteed anything. I’m sorry after school specials lied to you, but there is no “spirit of goodness” that permeates reality that will make all of this okay.

    There are no heroes coming to save us from the fire.

    We let the worst happen, and now if we ever want decency again, we are going to have to fight tooth and nail against tyrrany to make it happen. Period.

    Don’t waste your time listening to anyone still talking about this situation in terms of candyland simplicity and standard decorum. Not even the shitty status quo will save us, because we blew up the status quo in favor of fascism.

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      You don’t vote fascism away. This is why it was so important for the DNC to listen this time around.

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    The problem is, the economy will rally in 2025 because of rampant deregulation. That rally will be marketed as “a booming economy”, even if it’s tanking by midterms. This will fuck our midterms chances. I hope I am wrong, but it seems obvious to me.

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    The Democrats won’t win until and unless they grow a spine. This is not a situation where genteel institutionalists are needed: we need people with principles, discipline, drive and focus, who won’t stop fighting until the corruption is completely rooted out.

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    Let the Democrat party die. We need a strong Labor party. Give it a different name, if desired, but we need a party that is unrelentingly for the people, not the corporations.

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      Such a party can only work if it has a hard rule forbidding corporate financial support in any form. As soon as corporate or billionaire money gets involved, it will revert instantly back to a neoliberal/conservative party.

      It is not possible to have an honest political party that also accepts financial support from the oppressing class.

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    We’re a seesaw government now with both parties captured by corporations. Each party will take turns as the world turns to shit.

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    Lol, this assumes that free elections still exist. That is very unlikely. This is all the same long term cycle. People don’t value democracy they value tiktok, real housewives, cheap gasoline and cheap eggs. There is no reason for them to recognize what they are losing before it’s too late. It is what it is

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    Starting to think this might be the beginning of the incumbent disadvantage as both parties continue to put up unpopular candidates that fail to address the systemic economic issues plaguing the country.

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    No, Democrats have to get a hold on the immigration issue. The only countries in this world where progressive policies actually thrive is where leftwing parties have adopted stricter immigration stances (e.g. Denmark). There’s no way around it.

    Edit: Sure, downvote and keep losing

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    We’ll see. Right now we are in an UNBELIEVABLY good economy and I keep hearing - even from so-called leftists and centrists - just how terrible the economy is, etc., etc.

    Yes, maybe white collar jobs have softened somewhat, starting in 2022, party because some of Big Tech overhired, but seriously, look at the various indicators…it’s almost all good.

    Contrast this market with the dot-com bubble burst, or the 2008 fallout from banks fucking around with subprime markets. Just what is so bad about this economy?

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      The market is not the economy.

      The market is a measure of how much wealth is being extracted from the working class.

      If that’s what the economy is then it will never matter how good it is, because the working class people still can’t afford shit.

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      From my experience talking with folks IRL they just food prices, home prices, and collage prices. My experience may be squed because I work at a supermarket and have to try to imply that it’s the fault of greed without getting in trouble for making people not buying stuff a few times a week.
      They mean the cost of living, not economy.

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        I wonder: did any of these people making these claims speak at all about what policy or policies changed this and what policy or policies will perform some kind of miracle to change it back?

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      Perception is king. If people feel poor, even if they are not poor, they are poor.