• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    Its great, I, personally, am teaching my girls to check other’s allegiances and ideologies before they get to know them. If they even lean conservative I’ve told them its acceptable to clock them in the jaw. Dont associate with conservatives, dont allow them to reproduce, dont give them the comfort of social human connections that everyone needs.

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      18 days ago

      That sounds like a horrible idea that will endanger your daughters. Do you know how men will react to being punched in the jaw?

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          17 days ago

          Oh great, so your daughters will only be expelled and possibly charged with assault instead of being murdered. Excellent parenting.

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            17 days ago

            I just get the feeling you have no idea what you’re talking about, bud. The choices are between being murdered or expelled? I’ll have them be expelled then yeah definitely.

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              17 days ago

              What do you imagine happening if your daughter clocks a guy in the jaw in school? Lay it out for me, bud.

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                17 days ago

                Same thing that happened to me. They stop bullying your friends and you. What do you think happen when these newly emboldened incels dont receive any pusback? They continue or get worse.

                Edit: and I dont know what you’re expecting here dude. My family is not your family. What are you trying to accomplish?

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                  This isn’t the 90s when you could throw punches at school. Kids get arrested now. I worked with schools for years and can assure you that going to juvie helps no one. I’m trying to protect children here, idiot. Your daughters will struggle in life at best, and be physically assaulted at worse by following your advice. I sincerely hope you get your head on straight, for your daughter’s sake.

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                    17 days ago

                    No one is going to juvie for punching a bully. You’re off your rocker.

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      18 days ago

      Well that just sounds every bit as batshit insane as the far right. Basically giving them justification in their minds for being so cruel to women.

      “This one bitch just punched me, for like…no reason. I just said I voted for trump, and then BAM! Shit! She punched me!”

      “What did you do then?”

      “Oh, a bunch of my boys saw. We held her down and beat her mercilessly. That’ll teach her!”

      “Nice.”

      And they’ll feel justified. All you’re doing is teaching your daughters how to encourage physical violence, which I promise you, will not wofk out well for them.

      Teach them to distance themselves from conservatives, teach them their beliefs, and how they view women. Teach them how a conservative will treat them in the long run.

      But don’t teach them to physically attack someone stronger than them, unprovoked, against someone who would take pleasure in returning the violence tenfold.

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        18 days ago

        Nah, if people wanna go around saying “your body my choice” dont talk to the conservatives I dont give a shit. Ya’ll do what you want but me and mine aren’t associating with the side who wants women to be objects.

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          18 days ago

          But that’s not what you said.

          Not associating with them is fine. I even said “Teach them to distance themselves from conservatives” in my reply. But there is a HUGE difference between not talking to someone, and randomly punching them in the face.

          I’m not conservative. But if someone, male or female, or trans, or whomever, if they punched me in the face for no reason I’m punching them in the face right back. And I’m the type of person who doesn’t start fights, but once I’m in one I do end fights.

          Now imagine if it were a conservative who ENJOYED hitting women. Imagine they didn’t need a reason, but you just started a fight with them for no reason.

          You can end your interaction based on politics, sure. That’s not insane. What is insane is teaching your daughters to go around inciting violence by themselves against a group of people who’s core belief is that women should suffer. It would be like a 1940s Jew in Germany going out and punching a nazi. It’s not going to end well.

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            18 days ago

            Okay this is getting lost in my anger post and the filter of social media. In actuality, when the news says who won, when they hear the adults in my family speaking in the kitchen and they ask what’s going on I tell them, “if anyone says this to you at school, you stand up for yourself and other girls. Punch them if you have to, and make sure you hit first.” If you wanted the real raw deal of what I say word for word. Not my announcement trying to get people to get the point. I will always be like this until the Reds learn some basic fucking respect. The amount of misogynistic comments I hears after the election even in my own office sky rocketed. I dont give a shit about turning the other cheek. Fuck that. When the boot presses you beneath its heel you dont remove it by asking nicely. Punch Nazis. That family values shit they spew as a core value is exactly the same shit the Nazis did.

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      18 days ago

      You’re encouraging your kids to antagonize, then hit the most unstable, violent, and newly politically minted group on earth? You think that will go well for them?

      I understand self respect, but putting your girls into a fist fight with a politically motivated teenage boy sounds dumb as hell.

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      Encouraging isolated, vulnerable at risk folks to pick fights with members of a fascist “in group” is not going to work. Even if they get out of the encounter unscathed, the system will chew them up. It is not the right way to resist, especially when it’s a child.

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        18 days ago

        If you dont like what I tell them to do to these people at school you’re gonna hate what I tell them to do them outside classroom.

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          It’s not that I don’t like it, it’s just that your effectively telling them to play in traffic.

          Disengage, separate, distance.

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            18 days ago

            And you’re telling them to be quiet and keep their heads down. Fuck that.

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              Ridiculous. I never said that, I’m Focusing on you coaching them into picking fights they will not win.

              There’s self respect, advocacy, and imbalanced physical confrontation. The message is the former, the action is the latter. Punching angry, motivated, much stronger opponents FIRST is not going to work. It’s Dwight shrute shit.

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              Further, even if they get away unscathed, you’re assuming the system will defend them for starting a fight. Directly attacking low level member of a fascist group never works, as the system will chew you up. They will not be defended by the system if they throw first.

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                18 days ago

                All I’m reading is excuses for misogynistic little piss boys who couldn’t take a punch. These are school kids. I refuse to have my daughters begin life being silent because its dangerous. Thats the world we live in. We have to fight for fucken basic rights again.

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                  Dude. My comment history reflects my position on the woeld clearly. There’s zero maga joe.rogan boys will be boys shit. That’s not it. I’m not defending shit aside from calling out you are putting your girls at risk with disadvantage. It’s not that they shouldn’t fight back, it’s that if they do as you say they will lose in every possible way.

                  I’m contesting the idea that a lone target of a fascist group should hope to succeed either physically or systemically on their own.

                  The proper play is to work as a team, organize, and use the power of the group to protect the at risk in individuals.

                  Even if they get away, they started a fight. They will be chewed up by the system via no tolerance ruling.

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                    18 days ago

                    You aren’t grasping the concepts. If you teach them to recoil now thats how they will live their lives. I see the abuse play out in my office with women who are silent all the time. Fuck that. They dont be wired that way. I dont care about your history. In this instance, your advocating shutting the fuck up and keeping your head down. Thats not freedom.

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        17 days ago

        You can choose to be conservative, so it’s absolutely not the same

        Pretending tolerating intolerance works is how we got here, punching Nazis is part of how we get out

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          17 days ago

          You can choose to be liberal etc…

          Your intolerance doesn’t get a magical pass any more than theirs, and I don’t give two shits who started it.

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            You can choose to be liberal etc…

            Exactly? Punch a conservative because they’re conservative, they’re a piece of shit who’s actively advertising that fact, and if they want to not get punched they can stop being conservative whenever they want

            Meanwhile conservatives are going to try and kill LGBT people and other minorities who cannot just not be gay, or suddenly be white

            You not being able to tell the difference is super telling, ya little Nazi lover

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              17 days ago

              Can you hear yourself right now? You’re fucking bloodthirsty and personally doing all the shit that’s bad.

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        17 days ago

        Nah, you wanna repeat Fuentes you can lose your teeth. I’ll be teaching any progeny of mine the same. Like I said, you can keep your head down all you want. We won’t do that when the misogynists are in full force by 2028.

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          17 days ago

          You’re conflating a political party with misogyny to give yourself an ethics free pass? Get fucked keyboard warrior. Roll up and do your worst.

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            17 days ago

            You’re conflating a political party with misogyny

            You’re pretending being a Republican isn’t inherently misogynistic?

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              17 days ago

              I’m not pretending. I’m not even Republican or even close to it, but you gotta realize you’re wallowing in the echo chamber.

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                I’m not pretending

                Literally just did that in your last comment

                I’m not even Republican

                Nobody claimed you were, weird to suddenly defend yourself like that 🤔

                Republicans voted for their representative: a known rapist, Republicans are intrinsically misogynistic and to pretend otherwise is blatant whitewashing of reality

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            17 days ago

            So you’re saying you’re the misogynist? Kinda weird to out yourself by telling me to roll up if I wasn’t referring to you

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              17 days ago

              I’m not saying that. You’re saying that as a discrediting measure because you don’t have anything real to say.

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                17 days ago

                Neither do you. You can let your kids get bullied like you like and I’ll keep telling mine to fight back like I like. Does this arrangement work for you?

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                  17 days ago

                  Antinatalist here.

                  You really gotta stop assuming things. You hear one thing and immediately presume “enemy on all fronts”.

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                    17 days ago

                    I mean you and everyone else is literally saying to let my kids be harassed by boys like this and I just dont have any answer except for no. Thats not acceptable. So are we done here?

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      18 days ago

      You tell your daughters to not let other people reproduce? How old are they?

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        18 days ago

        Sounds kinda like “your body my choice” is you ask me, not letting other people reproduce.

        Here’s to hoping it’s a typo of “don’t have children with them”, but that’s a hell of a typo.

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          18 days ago

          It’s pretty extreme. I’m picturing two 7 year olds being forced to listen to what they said.
          If they even actually have any kids to begin with.

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            You’re a lot closer than you’d think. In another comment, they say their oldest is not yet a teenager.

            Gotta be a rough household to live in.