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    Copilot has determined that it’s better to save your files in OneDrive.
    Oops, one of your jpegs violates Disney’s copyright.
    Authorities have been notified and your Microsoft account was deactivated.
    All your files are gone, your email account is gone, your Windows PC will shut down now.

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    If you don’t control your data you don’t control your data… The cloud is just someone else’s computer… Back up your shit and keep some of those backups offsite but keep everything under your own control…

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      “If you don’t control your data, you don’t control your data…”, statement of the century. But yes we all should be taken care of our own data, and building up systems to help those who can’t

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    Debian, LMDE, Suse, Fedora, whatever. Just pick one and go for it.

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      NetBSD also runs on lowspec hardware

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      Steam Cloud: You dumb bitch.

      I’ve got it disabled and in offline mode and it still yells at me that it can’t sync saves with the cloud.

      Yeah, I fucking know, that was the idea.

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        Are you worried about a copy of your saved games in the cloud? I’ve had mine on for years and it makes moving to a new computer super easy.

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          Aside from not liking being dependent on a internet connection in the first place and tinfoil hat stuff, it was doing something weird with a partition on my old computer so I just disabled the whole thing and didn’t look back.

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    The biggest irony in all of this is that the integration is so much better on Mac than windows. I think it’s because it’s less aggressive/less ingrained but the one drive,m365, whatever integration on my work Mac is night and day better than the windows machine I had.

    I couldn’t stand it. And don’t get me started on team’s weird SharePoint backend or whatever the fuck they have going on.

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      FUCK dont get me started on SHAREPOINT I just want to reference a single cell from another LIST why would I want ALL THE ROWS

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      Part of it is Apple putting the smack down on cloud storage and forcing them to all go to the same place, which is ~/CloudStorage/<>, and follow some semblance of a standard. They don’t get to do whatever the hell they want on OSX. People can hate Apple all day, I get it, but some things I appreciate, even if it is super irritating at first.

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      Remember SharePoint is just Visual SourceSafe for documents, with a bad editor .

      Anyone who’s worked with VSS will have the PTSD to know what’s going to happen. We don’t know when you’re going into lose eveything, but we know it’ll happen. MS rolling their own bad CVS is like MS rolling their own email infrastructure.

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        You mean Outlook, originally known as Hotmail?

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          Exchange, formerly known as “what if we made an email server, but it’s database is Microsoft Access?”

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      I have PTSD flashbacks of SharePoint and the ten step process we had to use to interact with it. Then in literally every meeting, “why didn’t you read the SharePoint file on that?”

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        Ha. For a long time, Sharepoint would always ask me to log in, even though I had successfully logged into my laptop and was on the VPN and all of that. I finally called the help desk, and they couldn’t figure it out, so they contacted their Sharepoint support, and they couldn’t figure it out either.

        Eventually, I needed a new laptop…and that fixed the problem.

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        I am presently working on a presentation for a group of people with average age 57. I need them to start storing files online. My options are windows shared folders, which requires a domain joined PC, of which I have a single loaner for about 80 people, and a VPN connection … or SharePoint, fml, fuck my life ever so badly.

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          Alternatively you could go with the email exchange system

          Presentation-FINALv3js-legalapproved-v2-11-18-24-redacted.ppt

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    I also love how the safe prompts in office 365 are putting “this computer” in quotation marks.

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      I remember when it was C:/ then it became “this computer” and stuff, to make you forget you have hardware at all or so I feel.

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        If Microsoft could make you lease your computer and turn it into a terminal, they absolutely would.

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    There’s advantages to saving documents to the cloud for backups.

    Severely limiting that space by default and then preventing you from saving files when it runs out is horseshit. Half the computer problems I’ve fixed recently are all caused by OneDrive running out of space.

    My sister wanted to know why her Sims saves were disappearing. Turns out OneDrive was full and the saves were being backed up to it. No space = no more saving apparently.

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      On the other hand saves shouldn’t be saved into fucking documents folder in the first place. Or it shouldn’t be used by any other program unless explicitly allowed to. The only time I see people actually using Documents folder according to its purpose is at work.

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        Honestly this practice comes down to Windows never standardizing a location for user generated files related to a program. We might finally be there with appdata but even that is poorly standardized (what goes into ~/appdata/roaming/ vs ~/appdata/local/ etc.) and most backup software ignores despite game saves being very important. My Saved Games still exists but it’s more surprising when a game actually uses it than anything. And of course really old software would just store the saves right next to the install files, therefore requiring the program to have admin access, and running everything as admin is always a great idea.

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      Well if you fill up the space you pay for… What is OneDrive supposed to do if you try to add more files? How would it pick which ones to upload to the cloud and which ones not to? It would be pretty annoying if it just let you keep adding data locally but stopped uploading it imo.

      • It should stop uploading new files, and visibly notify the user that their cloud storage is full.

        It should not start silently deleting your data after you save something, especially because OneDrive likes to “replace” your Documents folder as it were.

        Imagine you work really hard on some important document, save it, and then OneDrive lovingly deletes it for you with no way to get it back because you ran out of cloud storage. Instead of, you know, just keeping it stored on your local storage and telling you it can’t upload it?

        Because that’s what it does now. Just deletes your stuff. OneDrive loses you more files than it saves. Terrible product and always the first thing I uninstall.

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          I’m gonna need a source for that.

          I’m really sceptical that OneDrive syncs your documents, deletes them from your computer and then deletes them from OneDrive. That sounds bizarre.

          • It doesn’t delete them from OneDrive, because they never get uploaded. If you max out the storage on OneDrive, then have a program write to that folder, it looks like everything is fine but OneDrive then deletes it once it notices no space is left.

            It’s anecdotal, but I’ve seen it do this myself.

            Perhaps to clarify: OneDrive folders exist both locally and in the cloud. If OneDrive is full, programs can still write to the local folder (nothing OneDrive can do to prevent that) so they don’t error or anything, but once OneDrive fails to upload the file just goes poof.

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              When you need to add anti features (like poor error case handling like this or the whole “auto save only works if the file is on one drive!”) to encourage users to upgrade their product, it’s a sign the service doesn’t offer enough value on its own.

              Which is funny because cloud storage is a good idea on its own but it’s been so enshitified in Microsoft’s case that I don’t trust what they are doing behind the scenes. Like they could be training AIs on everyone’s cloud data for all we know to make a few extra bucks.

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        No no you misunderstand-- It’s primary storage. Your 1TB hard drive is merely a local cache for the $70 OneDrive plan that you for some reason haven’t subscribed to yet, but don’t worry, you’ll get lots of reminders to.

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      Wow, that’s really garbage. Why is MS trying so hard to push Linux?

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      You know, I use Linux at work but use windows at home. I’ve been thinking of switching for a while. I think the thing that is going to push me over the edge is the difficulty that I have saving a file to my own god damned computer.

      I love automatic backups to the cloud WHEN I CHOOSE TO USE THEM! I’m tired of Microsoft essentially holding my data for ransom, though.

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        You can make cloud backups whenever you choose on Linux whenever you want, even to OneDrive.

        So far I’ve never had Bazzite nor Mint nor any of my software there force me to put things anywhere.

        Just know the Microsoft Office suite and Adobe’s software don’t really work on Linux systems.

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      I have a cheap laptop that I got solely for school to run their anti cheat Spyware for online tests. I hadn’t turned it on since I updated it and it forced me to make a hotmail/outlook account or I couldn’t use the laptop to take my test. Assholes almost made me late for it. Fuck microsoft.

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      If i can get guild wars 2 to run on Linux I won’t need windows anymore

      Edit : sorry for the confusion. I have linux running. The next step is to work on gw2. It’s the only thing remaining.

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        May I ask for further clarification on when you tried when running the game?

        I haven’t tried Guild Wars 2 on Linux however it seems like it works according to ProtonDB.

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          figured out how to log in

          Now to install proton dB…if I can find the install program.

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          Sorry I should have been more clear. I have mint linux installed. The speakers and the headset works. When I get a chance I need to work on gw2. It’s the last step. Sorry for the confusion.

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        It runs without a problem via steam for me on Linux mint. I don’t know how to do whatever setup steam does manually, but you can just launch it through steam and sign in with your anet account. (There’s a config option to open the login window instead of using your steam account for login)

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    Yeah well, good luck getting autosave to work now. If you don’t comply, you lose your privileges.

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      Is this on Windows 11? On 10 I can still direct it to an offline area of my drive.

      To be fair people massively misunderstand OneDrive. It’s not an extra storage space, it’s a file sharing space. Which is incredibly useful in a work environment.

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        If you don’t save your office docs to onedrive, you can’t turn on auto save.

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          Huh, I just haven’t used word in forever. I booted it up just to see, and yeah that’s ridiculous.

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    Look at them noobs who don’t know that you can tell One Drive to always keep a local copy of the files it backs up.

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            Yeah, when you save a new file it’s automatically uploaded, if you don’t have a connection it will save it locally and wait until you have a connection to upload/delete.

            Kinda suck when you realize you don’t have any local copies and no internet, so I always turn the option to keep a local copy On.

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      if you’ve never had a windows update forcably change your settings, then consider yourself lucky.

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      That’s how Microsoft works. You’ll build the work flow now, and then they’ll slowly change the default. They will do this with all of their defaults, for a longer time than you will pay attention.

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    Keep everything local is a great strategy until your house burns down or your hard drive or SSD decides to end it’s own life.

    I’m not saying that you should use one drive. I’m saying that you should have backups. If all you can get is cloud storage, then one drive might fit the bill. Maybe it won’t. I don’t know you or what you want from a backup.

    I back up my files to a NAS on my lan, but I also use one drive and Google drive when I need to.

    All I’m trying to say is: one drive isn’t necessarily the worst option. Raw dogging a single local storage drive as your only copy of the data you’re trying to hold onto, is much worse than one drive.

    Other than that, I’ll just reiterate: back up your shit. And I want to add, check your bitlocker to see if it’s on. If it is, back up your recovery key to somewhere safe. Bitlocker, in and of itself isn’t a bad thing. I would argue that it’s best practice to have some kind of FDE, and bitlocker can achieve that. Just back up the recovery key, for the love of God.

    Pro tip. “Print” the recovery to a PDF, then email that file to yourself. Quick and easy. The option to save your recovery key to a file, will not allow that file to be saved to the drive that it unlocks, but if you print it, you can save it as PDF without the same limitations. Just don’t leave it on the encrypted drive. Literally put it anywhere else. A USB drive, a NAS, an email, cloud storage, whatever you like. I’m not your boss.

    Save yourself a metric fuckton of work, and/or lost data; back up your shit.

    EDIT, some words (auto carrot), also, WTF? I’m being down voted for saying you should have backups? I expect better from lemmings.

    Related, I’m a sysadmin, and I work in IT, and I approve this message. Back up your shit.

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      In my possession are two, what I’ll call “master” drives. Two 16TB hard drives, exact clones of each other. They hold the bulk media, old photos, an entire library of books, backups with full emulator and rom sets, games, movies, series, Wikipedia backups, encyclopedias, cookbooks, plant guides, carpentry, mechanics, howtos, compressed into the tiniest dots my processor can manage.

      Aside from being a backup for my personal files and configurations, It’s essentially an arc of knowledge for societal collapse, granted laser-focused around what I find important, but still, important to someone.

      My cousin, who I consider my brother, has a copy of this drive in a small, foam-padded pelican case in his closet. He keeps it for me just in case of a house fire, displacement, or any dangerous situation that renders any of the data at my actual home inaccessible.

      While the drives aren’t a perfect clone of my network’s configurations as-is, that backup runs locally, the drives are 80% of the content I serve and would get me 80% of the way back to complete if anything ever happened. They would individually be invaluable if anything ever happened here or I had a Donnie Darko situation, especially if it’s some authoritarian hellscape and the content isn’t even available anymore.

      Btw if you aren’t ramping up your data collection due to the Trump goings on, you better be. Download EVERYTHING.

      NOW.

      RIGHT NOW.

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      I just have an extra server at a family member’s house and planing on having another at a different location