*advancing her career

https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3ldhxclo4wk2c

This is about AOC losing her bid for the Oversight committee to a geriatric Dem lifer. Sure she has systematically shredded any last bit of credibility with her triangulation, but hey, at least all the 5D polítical chess is paying off! She’s changing the system from the inside! It’s working this time!

Girl, you abandoned any pretense of doing working-class mass politics when you decided to do insider politics! Why are you tweeting like Bernie Sanders circa 2012? There’s no we! There’s no mass movement behind you! It’s just NYC DSA and some Warren libs (but I repeat myself)

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    yeah i can see why facts are hard for you to grasp. but you know, I definitely trust the numbers from the USSR and China… they havent been caught lying about their metrics at all… oh and huh I guess they havent quite nixed it in the bud yet either… surprise. I also find it hilarious when you start digging into the numbers that detail in which the distinction between literate and illiterate between US and china is hilarious. they’re measuring completely different things, the US is focusing of complex language analysis and china just publishes ‘yeah they can read and write’. But lets do it anyway using china’s metric.

    china is vastly superior with its 97% literacy vs the US’s 95.8%. damn. communism is definitely the superior system. you got me. I’m totally convinced one system definitely isnt shit. I definitely can’t think of any policies in china that would have potentially influenced this… oh whats this? the US information has a breakdown on the illiterate group…

    4.2% of respondents who were unable to be assessed due to language barriers, cognitive disability, or physical disability.

    huh, go figure. exactly my assertion that you can’t hit 100%.

    So remind me again what was your point? Dont get me wrong I admire some outcomes communist countries achieve just not at the cost. Just as I admire some things capitalist countries have achieved, just not at the cost. Essentially both systems are fundamentally flawed, both systems are capable of massive outputs at the expense absolutely abhorrent treatment of people just in different ways.

    And remember, I think both systems are shit. I’ve looked into both. found both wanting on purely human decency grounds. They both trend towards hierarchical societies that shit on an underclass. and yes, this by design. both systems are underpinned by an economic policies based on mathematical principles to achieve some particular set of goals. both are unstable. capitalism for its need to grow uncontrollably and lack of a strong guardrails towards positive feedback loops for individuals economic power, which leads to subversion by dictators. Communism because of its economic centralization is easily subverted and dismantled by dictators. One just takes longer depending on the starting point but both trend to the same end result.

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      yeah i can see why facts are hard for you to grasp. but you know, I definitely trust the numbers from the USSR and China

      Ah yes, ‘those spooky Asiatics always lie, and we can’t ever know how things actually worked there’.
      That is obviously silly. Firstly, you are forgetting that research has also been done by people from elsewhere (including by white westerners, whom you apparently consider to be genetically honest and superior to Slavs and Chinese people), and, secondly, you are forgetting that people who lived and worked in the USSR and other relevant places are alive. I have very easy access to such people (and I know for certain that they are such people) and I have used that access to study this very topic.

      Also, let’s turn this around. USians always lie. We can never trust what comes out of that cursed land. That Wikipedia page you linked? That’s a complete fabrication. There has also never been this ‘AOC’ person, ever.

      You are obviously being incredibly silly.

      they havent been caught lying about their metrics at all

      Again, relevant stuff was also studied by white westerners whom you consider to never ever lie, unlike your dastardly designated enemies, whose every good thing is apparently a fabrication and is never true.
      I can even tell you that this stuff has been studied by vocal anti-communists.

      oh and huh I guess they havent quite nixed it in the bud yet either

      Literally a 99.8% literacy rate overall. 100% among the youth. Started with 80% of the population being illiterate in 1940s.
      Currently, the PRC is leading in many technologies, academic disciplines, and industries.

      So, yeah, they have been very successful in this regard, apparently.

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        not to mention when liberal historians looked into the USSR’s archives they quietly failed to make any noise about how their vicious Cold War fantasies were disproven. meanwhile what does the US’s continuous history of overt and covert intervention say about their lies of “freedom” and “democracy”?

        projection

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      I definitely can’t think of any policies in china that would have potentially influenced this

      Firstly, that’s what policies are supposed to do. Solve these issues. How that is lost on people like you who want to elect politicians to solve problems for you is beyond me.
      Secondly, how is the one-child policy relevant here?

      4.2% of respondents who were unable to be assessed due to language barriers, cognitive disability, or physical disability.

      Notably, this indicates that fewer USians are literate by the standards of the PRC that you opt to malign here.

      huh, go figure. exactly my assertion that you can’t hit 100%

      Notably, the PRC’s education efforts are evidently very successful. Just as I said.

      So remind me again what was your point?

      That communist projects generally provide good education for their people. Which is very evident at this point.

      Dont get me wrong I admire some outcomes communist countries achieve just not at the cost

      Notably, their achievements are much greater than that of this ‘AOC’ person who might not even exist.

      Just as I admire some things capitalist countries have achieved

      Like slavery and colonialism? Lol. Couldn’t achieve much themselves but polish pig poop balls without colonialism.

      Essentially both systems are fundamentally flawed

      One of them boasts guaranteed housing, universal healthcare, elimination of illiteracy, massive increases of life expectancy, bringing about women’s rights that we consider a given today, and so on, and so forth.
      The other boasts colonial exploitation of most of the world, immiseration of billions, genocide of millions.
      You opt to claim they are equally flawed and bad. And you also claim that a person who works to uphold the latter system is somehow good while having no achievements of note. You are being silly.

      both systems are capable of massive outputs at the expense absolutely abhorrent treatment of people just in different ways

      Guaranteed housing, universal healthcare, elimination of illiteracy, massive increases of life expectancy, emancipation of women, liberation of your colonies, etc. is not, contrary to what USians have been conditioned to believe, ‘abhorrent’.
      Going to note again that you are yet to actually say how the treatment of people by communist states is somehow bad.

      And remember, I think both systems are shit

      And you are being extremely silly. You even think that AOC - a high politician who works to uphold the obviously worse system - is somehow good, and that she should be defended.

      I’ve looked into both. found both wanting on purely human decency grounds

      If you find guaranteed housing, universal healthcare, etc. just as bad as slavery and near-slavery that your empire has been subjecting the rest of the world to, then you are just being an extremely silly branwashed Burgerlander.
      Notably, you are literally in support of a politician who is involved in a genocide, and who is trying to maintain the worst version of one of the systems you claim to hate.

      both are unstable

      You keep making claims without being able to support them.

      Communism because of its economic centralization is easily subverted and dismantled by dictators

      ‘Planned economy (again, not synonymous with ‘communism’) is bad because it is dismantled by the governments’ is a very silly argument that actually indicates that planned economy is good, as you find it bad when it is dismantled.
      Also, you are one of those people who use the word ‘dictator’ but do not mean anything by the word other than ‘the worst genocidal empire in the world told me to use the word against its designated enemies, so I will uncritically do so!’.
      In any case, you are being very silly.

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      5 years from now you’ll either be a communist and laugh about this conversation or you’ll be a fascist because you refuse to investigate. So many people in this comment chain have tried to help you realize that most of what you’re saying is just catchphrases designed to dismiss communism as “authoritarian” and incompatible with “human nature”