• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The GOP Is No Longer the Party of National Security

    Oh for fucks sake they never were! Talking about it like this is letting Republicans re-write fucking history!! Talking about it like this is letting them dictate what taking security seriously means which is how we got in this fucking mess to begin with!

    Was starting two forever wars in the middle east good for the US’s security or Europe’s for that matter?

    Not to mention 9/11 literally fucking happened because the Bush admin ignored clear warnings. (What’s that called, a security lapse? Rumsfeld called it a failure of imagination. I call it a failure to fucking read.)

    The Afghanistan/Iraq wars in particular are an inflection point in the overall change in wider public opinion about the US government, especially worldwide. It’s when the US’s soft power began to falter and we became known as Team America World Police. It spearheaded disillusionment in the populace which has allowed right wing demagoguery take over in USA and Europe.

    Was the TSA ever even really about security? At this point if a terrorist wanted to cause mass havoc and kill many people, they’d just have to set off a bomb while standing in line waiting for security. There’s been two decades of research into the TSA that shows it is all security theater and a stealth jobs program for the Bush administration.

    They were never the party of national security, back to Reagan trading weapons for hostages.

    EDIT: I remember computer scientists worried about the vote being insecure in 2004 and they were dismissed by “the party of national security.” While the CEO of Diebold was quoted as “We’re dedicated to bringing the President the vote in November.”

    So fucking sick of these anti-research anti-science fucks being treated as competent about fucking anything.

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      Don’t forget that Ronnie Raygun likely was involved in fucking up Carter getting hostages released. And then there was Iran/Contra…the qons don’t GAF about American security and I’m not sure they ever have. Funneling money to their defense contractor boyfriends does not equal “national security”. If anything, it destabilizes things.

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        Exactly, every time you turn around these guys were always ignoring evidence-based-anything. What they mean about “Law and order” is beating the shit out of innocent people and pinning charges on them. What they mean about “national security” is bombing the fuck out of wherever they can steal resources from. It’s why Trump brought up Greenland and Panama Canal, strategic resource allocation.

        The only thing they know to utilize is violence and domination. They’re not clever fucking people, they’re just ruthless.

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      That the Republican Party did little or nothing for national security is pretty well-known. But they did have a reputation for talking about it a lot and making it a key part of their campaign strategy and their picks for security secretary and defence secretary have traditionally been Rufus Scrimgeour types who would at least put on a strong act. That rhetoric has been noticeably absent this last election cycle and their pick for defence secretary is noticeably eyebrow-raising in this regard as well.