• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    The ADL considers anti-zionism to be antisemitic.

    I literally don’t give a shit what the ADL thinks.

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      12 hours ago

      This is the most clear possible destruction of their credibility. It’s the thing you point to when you say they’re full of shit.

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      21 hours ago

      Still poignant to point out how absolutely stupid and hypocritical this entire group is with their bullshit of literally defending a actual Nazi giving the Nazi salute in broadcast tv.

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      Antizionism means to be a against Israel‘s existence. Half the world’s Jews live in Israel and the state protects them. Without the state of Israel millions of Jews are in danger of ethnic cleansing or genocide. So the consequences of antizionism are enabling antisemitic acts on a large scale.

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        That’s not all that Zionism is, you’re purposely changing it to fit your narrative. In other words, lying.

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        Zionism is trash. Israel is the one doing the ethnic cleansing and genocide and using Zionism as part of the excuse for it.

        I know it’s not the fault of Judaism or Jews in general but goddamn Israel is probably turning people antisemitic because of what they’re doing and have done.

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          Yes. I keep reminding myself my Jewish friends did not choose to attack the Gazans and don’t agree with Israel’s actions, but wow is the antisemitic brain worm whispering at me.

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        Antizionism means to be a against Israel‘s existence.

        It doesn’t.

        millions of Jews are in danger of ethnic cleansing or genocide.

        They aren’t. Maybe some. Not in America, Britain, most of Europe.

        Too bad the best-boyfriend-in-the-world is still a boy and doesn’t understand world politics.

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          Zionism is literally the right of the Jewish people to self determination in the form of the state of Israel. It’s simply Jewish nationalism.

          Antizionism demands Israel‘s destruction and denies the Jewish nation the right to self determination.

          Denying the right to self determination only for the Jewish people, but not for other people (e. g. Palestinians) is antisemitic of course. If you’re opposed to all ethnicity based nation states or states in general, it’s not antisemitic. It’s rarely the case though, that anti-zionists are also against the existence of Finland, Italy, and Mongolia.

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        Ethno-nationalism is not good.

        Colonialism is not good.

        Israel is not good. Israel threatens the wellbeing of Jewish people world wide with its act of trying to conflate Israel and Judaism.

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            Do you think every other ethnic group has self determination? The USA is filled with the remnants of tribes that fought the US government and lost their lands. Should they be given those lands back? Are you going to push for all lands to be given back to the ethnic group that held them thousands of years ago or just the one that applies to your interests?

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            There are thousands and thousands of ethnic groups in the world and only 195 countries.

            Knock it off with this racist crap.