This is all going to “teach some lesson”…to the Democrats, I presume. Whether anyone will be around to benefit from this supposed lesson remains to be seen…
where is your evidence that things would be any different if the Dems won? Is Kamala, Genocide Joe or any other democratic leader speaking out against this? They lost and they’re as silent as they were prior to the election?
And this is why the Democrats lost. Keep antagonizing the left. We aren’t all straight white males with family in North America. To you it’s an equation.
Oh you never saw the deal Biden worked out for peace? I know, I know, it not perfect and fighting will continue. But do not fucking lie and say Biden was not tring for peace.
Silence, because we all told you Biden’s plan was exactly the same?
Then we should do the math.
If “both sides” are the same on this issue, we cast aside those factors because they cancel out. That means you and yours actively sought the degradation of democracy, rolling back environmental protections, authoritarianism, fascism, a active and open kleptocracy, removal of rights for lgbtq people, and whatever other destructive fuckery this administration does.
Sound about right? I mean, if you hate one side for being genocidal, and equally hate the other side for the same, then surely you would have had the intelligence to choose based on the remaining issues?
You did choose, by action or inaction, and it’s plainly obvious what you wanted.
Yup. if they are same on this issue, people should have had the 95 other aspects where they are different. But again to quote another Lemmy user, “You won’t reason someone out of a viewpoint they’ve never reasoned themselves into in the first place”
I complain a lot about Trump… one giant reason I worked to try and get the Harris campaign to denounce the on going genocide, and to pay fucking attention to what the working class is saying, which isn’t “economy is fine, eat cake!”
And your girlfriend lives in a different city, too. “You wouldn’t know her…”
Anyway, there is no disagreement from you. You choose trump. You vocally oppose Harris/Biden/Democrats, and it really doesn’t matter what you say about trump anywhere else based on your pattern here. If you didn’t vote, or you voted for trump…same effect.
Well, in this case you support the side that will fuck it up even more for Palestinians. But you know, at least we all can “enjoy” your moral superiority.
Silence, because we all told you Biden’s plan was exactly the same?
Biden’s administration has been attempting to hash out a peace deal with the support of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and others.
This genocide you claim to stand against is abso-fucking-lutely going to get worse now that Trump is in office. Hiding behind ‘this was always going to happen’ is a shameful and cowardly stance to take and a pathetic attempt to absolve yourselves of any blame.
Biden Announces Ceasefire Deal Between Hamas, Israel in Farewell Address > U.S. Department of Defense > Defense Department News https://search.app/v45EpUMM6EFahfwTA
As usual, dead silence from the “Democrats bad, Genocide Joe” crowd.
Time to face the facts: Those people just wanted Trump to win.
That’s definitely the point.
This is all going to “teach some lesson”…to the Democrats, I presume. Whether anyone will be around to benefit from this supposed lesson remains to be seen…
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Not silence, just more bullshit unfortunately. I’ve seen them continue to defend their position.
Edit: In this post!
It’s OK, they wanted this apparently.
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You’re still getting the same policy you wanted for Gaza. All centrists are.
You don’t know me.
Is Netanyahu committing genocide?
EDIT: The downvotes indicate that some people are feelin’ seen.
genocide bibi, for once, is accurate, it just didn’t catch because it wasn’t as useful to the trump/putin campaign. And it worked.
This could have been used at anytime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law
All of the ruling class is complicit in genocide
Hi! Democrats bad, Genocide Joe. Not sure what you want us to say, this was expected and I would do the same thing again.
where is your evidence that things would be any different if the Dems won? Is Kamala, Genocide Joe or any other democratic leader speaking out against this? They lost and they’re as silent as they were prior to the election?
Are you making up a totally different discussion? Yes, you are…
Apologies colonial master. I have edited my post to articulately prove my point. Fact is, y’all still just blaming browns?
Insult. Appeal to hypocrisy. Butwhatabout…
Do you have anything other than “but what about those other guys?” The discussion is over. You missed it.
Did you answer anything from my edit? No. Have you addressed the blatant racism/islamophobia? No. Okay. Discussion done because you said so. 👍🏽
Yes. You just didn’t like the answer. It was all already answered here, and your appeal to hypocrisy is irrelevant.
And this is why the Democrats lost. Keep antagonizing the left. We aren’t all straight white males with family in North America. To you it’s an equation.
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Oh you never saw the deal Biden worked out for peace? I know, I know, it not perfect and fighting will continue. But do not fucking lie and say Biden was not tring for peace.
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Silence, because we all told you Biden’s plan was exactly the same?
Then we should do the math.
If “both sides” are the same on this issue, we cast aside those factors because they cancel out. That means you and yours actively sought the degradation of democracy, rolling back environmental protections, authoritarianism, fascism, a active and open kleptocracy, removal of rights for lgbtq people, and whatever other destructive fuckery this administration does.
Sound about right? I mean, if you hate one side for being genocidal, and equally hate the other side for the same, then surely you would have had the intelligence to choose based on the remaining issues?
You did choose, by action or inaction, and it’s plainly obvious what you wanted.
Yup. if they are same on this issue, people should have had the 95 other aspects where they are different. But again to quote another Lemmy user, “You won’t reason someone out of a viewpoint they’ve never reasoned themselves into in the first place”
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I wish I could upvote this more than once.
It means I will not support anyone engaged in a genocide…
But you and yours only vocally complain about one of them? Then your morality is worthless.
I complain a lot about Trump… one giant reason I worked to try and get the Harris campaign to denounce the on going genocide, and to pay fucking attention to what the working class is saying, which isn’t “economy is fine, eat cake!”
Bullshit.
A quick trip through your comment history is nothing but pointing fingers at Biden and Harris. You do know people can see that, right?
Do you honestly think lemmy is the only place I do online shit on?
And yes, when the convo is “we.need to.ble voters not Harris for losing”… well, you tend to critique the person to show why they lost…
And your girlfriend lives in a different city, too. “You wouldn’t know her…”
Anyway, there is no disagreement from you. You choose trump. You vocally oppose Harris/Biden/Democrats, and it really doesn’t matter what you say about trump anywhere else based on your pattern here. If you didn’t vote, or you voted for trump…same effect.
Well, in this case you support the side that will fuck it up even more for Palestinians. But you know, at least we all can “enjoy” your moral superiority.
Unless it from my daddy drumph!!
Cool, so it can be expanded.
It already was…
Biden’s administration has been attempting to hash out a peace deal with the support of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and others.
This genocide you claim to stand against is abso-fucking-lutely going to get worse now that Trump is in office. Hiding behind ‘this was always going to happen’ is a shameful and cowardly stance to take and a pathetic attempt to absolve yourselves of any blame.
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Uh huh. I’m sure they were totally fantastic behind conveniently closed doors, in fanfic-land.
A peace deal, while supplying the genocider?
Exactly this. I wish I could upvote multiple times…
Biden’s plan was to move every currently living being away from Gaza?
Nah, just allow Israel to kill them all in-place.
Biden Announces Ceasefire Deal Between Hamas, Israel in Farewell Address > U.S. Department of Defense > Defense Department News https://search.app/v45EpUMM6EFahfwTA
One day, centrists will learn that “Announces” and “Accomplishes” aren’t the same thing.
Oh, who am I kidding. Centrists don’t learn.