No because the year is a super large time; there’s a reason people always say they take a bit to adjust to writing the new year in dates because it’s s long enough period of time that it almost becomes automatic.
For archiving, sure; most other things, no (logically, ISO-8601 is probably the best for most cases, in general, but I’ll die on the hill that MM-DD-YYYY is better than DD-MM-YYYY).
In your day to day, will you need to know the year of a thing? Probably not; it’s probably with the year you’re currently in.
Do you need to know the day of the month first? Probably not unless it’s within the current month so you need to know the month first.
Telling me “22nd” on a paper means nothing if I don’t know what month we’re referring to; and, if I do need to know the year, – well – it’s always at the the of the date so it’s easy to locate rather than parsing the middle of the date, any.
Yeah; I did. And that’s a short stop for that date being useless in the future, after the short-term use case. That’s more wild, to me, than having the least useful part of the date just be at the end where it’s easily locatable.
So you are suggesting that the month should be first because it’s more general, but at the same time the year should be last because it’s the least useful. Can’t you see why that’s really inconsistent? It would be more logical to choose a rule to follow. Either it’s sorted by “usefulness”: DD-MM-YY, or by “generalness”: YY-MM-DD.
As I’ve said multiple times, – in your day to day – you don’t care about the year; it’s usually going to be the same year you’re in. So put the elements is the date you care about first. At least it’s always in an easy to find location.
I never care about the day of the month unless I’m caring about the month itself. There’s never a case where I don’t care about the month; in the day-to-day, it’s the most used data point so it goes before the day of the month.
It’s not confusing, just better tailored to actual usage.
It’s fascinating to me how you quote the portion that’s right before
I never care about the day of the month unless I’m caring about the month itself. There’s never a case where I don’t care about the month; in the day-to-day, it’s the most used data point so it goes before the day of the month.
Are you going to tell me that, when reading a date off a paper you’ve been handed, you want to know the day of the month before ever knowing what month we’re taking about?
22nd – without any further context – is useful to you?
I thought you were talking about the order of importance. You’d of course put the day first, then the less important stuff, right?
Are you going to tell me that, when reading a date off a paper you’ve been handed, you want to know the day of the month before ever knowing what month we’re taking about?
22nd – without any further context – is useful to you?
I’d assume it’s the current month or the next one if that day has been passed. Like you said about the year. I get your idea and it’s smart.
None of which start with the month because that would be fuckin stupid
Meh. It’s getting a lot of hate here, but I think it works well in casual short term planning. Context (July) - > precision (15).
If I want to communicate the day in the current month, I just say the day, no month.
ok but by that logic you’d start with the year
No because the year is a super large time; there’s a reason people always say they take a bit to adjust to writing the new year in dates because it’s s long enough period of time that it almost becomes automatic.
For archiving, sure; most other things, no (logically, ISO-8601 is probably the best for most cases, in general, but I’ll die on the hill that MM-DD-YYYY is better than DD-MM-YYYY).
well either you omit the year, or you start with it
americans start with the month and end with the year, which is totally wild
Why? Because you say so?
Because “context -> precision” is exactly the reason someone earlier gave as reasoning for the American system?
Because it’s consistent that way. Why not is the real question?
Everyone starts sentences with a capital letter, you shouldn’t be flinging shit mate 😂
nahh f that shit
Again, – within most use cases – it really isn’t.
In your day to day, will you need to know the year of a thing? Probably not; it’s probably with the year you’re currently in.
Do you need to know the day of the month first? Probably not unless it’s within the current month so you need to know the month first.
Telling me “22nd” on a paper means nothing if I don’t know what month we’re referring to; and, if I do need to know the year, – well – it’s always at the the of the date so it’s easy to locate rather than parsing the middle of the date, any.
that’s why I said you could omit it. did you read what I wrote?
Yeah; I did. And that’s a short stop for that date being useless in the future, after the short-term use case. That’s more wild, to me, than having the least useful part of the date just be at the end where it’s easily locatable.
So you are suggesting that the month should be first because it’s more general, but at the same time the year should be last because it’s the least useful. Can’t you see why that’s really inconsistent? It would be more logical to choose a rule to follow. Either it’s sorted by “usefulness”: DD-MM-YY, or by “generalness”: YY-MM-DD.
Not when you’re old… I’ll be 50 this year, they’re flying by.
Exactly. It would be like reading the minute of the clock before the hour.
So you do include the year, but just confusingly in the end?
As I’ve said multiple times, – in your day to day – you don’t care about the year; it’s usually going to be the same year you’re in. So put the elements is the date you care about first. At least it’s always in an easy to find location.
I never care about the day of the month unless I’m caring about the month itself. There’s never a case where I don’t care about the month; in the day-to-day, it’s the most used data point so it goes before the day of the month.
It’s not confusing, just better tailored to actual usage.
So the actual day?
It’s fascinating to me how you quote the portion that’s right before
Are you going to tell me that, when reading a date off a paper you’ve been handed, you want to know the day of the month before ever knowing what month we’re taking about?
22nd – without any further context – is useful to you?
I thought you were talking about the order of importance. You’d of course put the day first, then the less important stuff, right?
I’d assume it’s the current month or the next one if that day has been passed. Like you said about the year. I get your idea and it’s smart.
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