• archomrade [he/him]
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    4 hours ago

    Certain non-voters attitude became […] “I’m just not voting”

    Ok, now apply that criticism to those who (hypothetically) wouldn’t have voted if Biden had stopped supplying military aid to Israel.

    The Democrats created that block of voters by repeatedly lying about their knowledge of Israel’s war crimes. Not only could they have done the right thing by withholding their offensive aid from Israel, they could have also not lied about it.

    Democrats tried obscuring the scale of devastation in gaza with their own involvement, and then lost because they got caught and then doubled down. You can’t treat your constituents with that much contempt and expect not to lose those voters, and then post-rationalize the lie by claiming that they would have lost more voters had they been honest and intervened.

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      3 hours ago

      You seem to think the election was more about punishing Biden for Gaza than preventing trump from destroying America.

      Those were the only two choices. Period.

      The thing that you don’t want to admit here is that you chose trump. You in part made this current reality happen while we tried to prevent it.

      Gaza will be gone and you will have literally helped trump do it by not voting Harris.

      That fact will never change.

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        2 hours ago

        Bingo.

        There were two and only two options. There is no reality in which there was another option.

        Harris or Trump were going to be president and one expressed disapproval of what Israel was doing and the other straight up said they should finish the job.

        Anyone who didn’t vote or voted 3rd party, helped usher Donald Trump into the Oval Office and sealed Gaza’s fate. They could have chosen to limit the amount of suffering, but they chose to take their ball and go home instead.

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        2 hours ago

        You seem to think the election was more about punishing Biden for Gaza than preventing trump from destroying America.

        No, I don’t. Elections allow citizens to participate in deciding their representation, and those candidates campaign for votes by convincing normal people that you will represent their interests.

        I shouldn’t have to cite the history of how that started for you to understand that’s just how it’s always worked, and if there was ever an implicit intent for every single person to vote in every election they would have (at least) made election days a holiday (since most polling places were a half-day’s trip from land-owning patriarchs at the beginning).

        This a-historical fantasy of elections being objective measures of the totality of a voting population’s will is an absurd caricature of our democracy, and it’s only purpose seems to be to shift the responsibility of candidates to advocate for their qualifications and onto voters, who are not obligated to make that choice when the candidate themselves has abdicated their own responsibility to justify their candidacy.

        Gaza will be gone because democrats decided their relationship with a fascist ethnostate was more important than stopping a fascist from taking the executive office, and even your and my vote for Genocide Lite was made into a meaningless sacrifice because of it.