Tech’s broken promises: Streaming is now just as expensive and confusing as cable. Ubers cost as much as taxis. And the cloud is no longer cheap::Some tech is getting pricier and looking a lot like the older services it was supposed to beat. From video streaming to ride-hailing and cloud computing.

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    You say “broken promises” I say “the plan all along” and “bait and switch”.

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      Yep. The business model has always been “Lure them in and stifle competition with a low initial cost. Then when we have the market we can jack up the price.” Enshitification at its best.

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            Yeah but then the wealthy eventually start buying away regulation. The only thing that made capitalism get under any sort of control was fear of a worker’s revolution

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              The only thing that made capitalism get under any sort of control was fear of a worker’s revolution

              Yep, and so they made capitalism global, exported all of the union jobs to countries where labor abuse is permitted or encouraged, and then created new categories of unorganized, exploitative jobs faster than labor could keep up with them.

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            Even well-regulated capitalism strives for this and somehow manages to achieve it. It is the nature of capitalism.

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              It is in the nature of power. Reducing this to a particular economic system is nearsighted.

              Every social system with a power dynamic (i.e. a system with two or more people in it) is vulnerable to power abuse. Power blinds, blindness strips powerful of perspective, decisions made without good information drunk-walk towards ruin.

              The only common thing is the fact that it’s the average Jane who suffers first and whose rage ends up counteracting the ruin.

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                It is in the nature of power. Reducing this to a particular economic system is nearsighted.

                I will agree that it is the nature of power. But I will argue that few other economic systems actively facilitate (and actually reward) the concentration of power the way capitalism does. I’ll also point out you are basically resorting to a “whataboutism” argument.

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                  I’ll also point out you are basically resorting to a “whataboutism” argument.

                  That explains… a lot. I apologize for wasting your time.

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            If its actually well regulated it wont be capitalism. Just like Europe has many kingdoms yet isnt full of actual monarchy.

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              All capitalism is, at its core, is the system of owning and investing capital for greater returns later. You can have that while regulating things–at least in theory.

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                An actual dictionary definition of capitalism:

                an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.

                Any definition of capitalism that doesn’t in some way mention private ownership of capital is simply wrong.

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      A lot of these things were proudly unprofitable, which is basically their way of getting around anti-trust violations. If they had a revenue stream to make the business profitable (outside of investors handing them more cash) then they’d be hit with anti-trust lawsuits for offering services at a loss in order to drive the competition out of business. But instead they just convince investors to hang on long enough to achieve the same goal, then raise their prices when they’ve got too much power to fail.

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      “Rent seeking” has a nice ring to it in this case, I think. The previous situation was fine, except for not being profitable enough for the right people.

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    This has nothing to do with tech and EVERYTHING to do with FUCKING CAPITALISM.

    What a dumb fucking post, tech didn’t promise us shit were still living in a capitalist nightmare where quarterly earnings are far and above the primary value, over any and all people.

    What the fuck is this waaaa tech didn’t usher in an age of utopia!!! It’s almost like we have to solve other problems first. Fucks sake

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      Can we actually have a discussion on what’s at hand here instead of knee jerk reactions?

      Perhaps you had to have been there for all the “building better worlds” and “bringing people together” horseshit every silicon valley company was spewing since the dot com boom in the 2000’s

      It’s not an actual promise so don’t act pedantic. The point is- society was sold these concepts and ideas as solutions to existing problems, and they’ve instead become bigger and more expensive problems.

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        Honestly, not to blame the public, but people were sitting here for the last decade going, don’t like being censored? Don’t use Google/Facebook/whatever. Don’t like being tracked across the internet? Don’t use Google/Facebook/whatever. And everyone kept using it. As for streaming services, I mean, if you don’t want monopolistic pricing power, abolish copyright/DMCA. We complain constantly about the consequences of these big corps but society keeps religiously buying shit from them or participating in their services. Just like complaining constantly about global warming but driving your car 3 miles to the store to get a 1L bottle of water. We set up these structures and put people in these positions where they can exploit you, then act surprised when they do, and we have an excuse for why we think every individual part of it needs to stay exactly the same.

        OK, maybe to blame the public a little.

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        Cheaper has never been a promise of big tech. Better, personalized, more convenient, flexible, faster. Cheaper? I missed the promise where we’d get all these benefits for nothing, and in fact be given discounts for getting all these benefits.

        Before anyone starts: yes Uber is better than a taxi. Yes, cloud computing is better than on-premises. I’m so sad for this author who can’t work their streaming services, but as bad as cable? Give me a break.

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          Yea cable sucked way more, atleast we aren’t locked into contracts with these services. Subscribe for a month watch the last years entire catalog and unsubscribe, rinse and repeat. You don’t need every subscription to be always active.

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              Haha good luck with forcing people into a contract when you got like 2 shows airing at any given time. If they want a contract the content has to explode by atleast 4 fold

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            Yyyyep. The way they package channels is so irritating. And the advertising load you get with cable TV is intolerable to me. My parents are conditioned to it after decades but it drives me insane fast.

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        Yeah, but they said those things before going public or when a few people had the vast majority of shares.

        If they cash out, there’s now a board in control, and the big investors want big returns. So that’s the direction companies inevitably go.

        Because if capitalism.

        It might be the same company, but it’s often not the same people calling the shots

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        They were/are solutions to some of the problems though. Uber makes it way easier and convenient to get a ride which also helped lower the amount of drunk driving happening. Streaming made it was more convenient to watch what i want to watch when i want to watch it and without ads.

        The real solution would be for public infrastructure like subways, busses, etc so we dont need privatized solutions that start cheap and then ramp up the prices when we’re hooked. And we could have had films/series that get funded directly by the viewers without middlemen so for a cheaper price we can enjoy the art and have the money go directly to the artists but we instead we got different middlemen

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          Friendly reminder that Uber makes use of public infrastructure to do its thing.

          As do all the airlines.

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      Technology has and will always be awesome…… unless it’s in a society that is structured in an inherently exploitative way.

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      I guess the thing where tech is relevant is that regulations thought it was different, so they didn’t apply the rules against dumping and other illegal tactics (“because they’re a start-up, it’s different when they lose money year over year”).

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      “Tech” doesn’t exist. Entire concept is a lie propagated by companies trying to appear like something different.
      Not a tech company - a taxi company, a short term rental company, a video distribution company …

      Look at what they sell, not what tools they use to do it.

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        Uber isn’t a taxi company. They don’t own a fleet. They’re a company that makes an app.

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        “the cloud isn’t tech it’s a rental company” is a pretty dumb take tbh.

        Like, if you’re trying to argue that AWS (or gcp, azure) services don’t provide technical solutions that aren’t available otherwise you just don’t know what you’re talking about. Is it expensive, yeah it definitely can be. But cloud is much more than server rentals at this point. Want a host that gives you bare metal? Great there are ‘rentals’ to choose from. I can see arguing SaaS hasn’t really ‘tech’, but PasS and IaaS provide technology and solutions to problems. I hate Daddy Jeff as much as the next guy but AWS is very much ‘tech’.

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          I could buy a server and run AD. I can rent a cloud server and run AD. In that way, you’re correct.

          But what I want to do is buy a local server and run AAD. They won’t let me. Their cloud solutions are an artificial limitation to force us to rent servers rather than license software. It’s another form of vendor lockin.

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          You know how to fix air conditioning? How about program an alarm system? These are side services a storage company provides their clients to enhance their main product. If uber is a taxi company and Netflix is just Blockbuster 2.0, the cloud is just a big Westies in the sky.

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          but what isn’t tech, then?

          yeah, AWS is tech. but the garage down the street is also selling technology. the landscaping company will sell me a cloud-connected sprinker system, are they a tech business?

          “tech” is an investment term to refer to businesses that develop technology that has the potential to turn into huge, currently unknowable growth. tech is a good investment because it’s so far ahead of the curve that we don’t even know how it will grow yet. if you’re selling things that are generally well understood and will scale and grow in a predictable fashion, you’re not a tech business. you’re a service business.

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      I’m not usually one for an ad hominem, but it’s business insider—that’s probably one conclusion they are incapable of arriving at

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      Well, you’re right that the bigger issue is people expecting tech to solve social problems created by social structure. But Yes, tech is absolutely failing at this. How could it not?

      Why not instead take this show of contempt for tech as another chance for people to recognize the underlying issue, not as a threat to the future of tech developments.

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      Agree, it’s 100% greed for investors’ money. But it’s way easier to get away with lying in tech than in most other industries.

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        It’s not even that; those services were subsidized by investors money on this idea that once you get a user base, you can then capitalize on the user base.

        Those promises were made at a loss which later had to become a profit. It’s like Discord, there’s no way hosting literal hundreds of thousands of servers for free and killing all the competition can and will continue indefinitely. I wouldn’t be surprised if their monetization gets even more aggressive because transmitting all of that audio and video is not cheap.

        That’s not even a “capitalism” thing, that’s just a “someone’s got to do the work thing” and the majority of gamers went “yup that somebody can not be free!” And what always happens does, the existing solutions lost tons of revenue and became increasingly stagnant because they can’t compete with “free”.

        That’s why I’ve started paying for stuff (even when there’s a “free” option or paying more for domestically produced goods – even when there’s a “cheaper” option). Cheap isn’t cheap when it comes to manufactured goods (i.e., cheap imported junk), and free isn’t free when it comes to online services. Ultimately, somebody’s gotta make “free” happen (even if it’s a government, and then that really means the tax payer).

        The race to the bottom only exists because that’s what people vote for with their wallets. If it wasn’t rewarded with sales, it wouldn’t happen.

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    Don’t blame tech, blame the bait-and-switch business model of loss leading products.

    Uber never made money because they chose to undercut prices of all competitors and bleed them out.

    I’d argue that newer streaming companies (those founded by studios, such as Disney +) did the same thing by roping in customers before jacking up prices.

    It may be the “fault” of capitalism, but consider it was capitalism that birthed streaming in the first place. In the long term, the expectation would be a better solution will surface in reference to streaming… the same way streaming was a solution to cable. Thus is the business cycle.

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      the expectation would be a better solution will surface in reference to streaming… the same way streaming was a solution to cable.

      What would that look like though? The current streaming model was pretty easy to predict ~15 years ago with the advent of online video streaming in general, especially mainstream forms of it such as YouTube. I have a hard time imagining how any other business model for distributing video content would look like, but then again I don’t have a very entrepreneurial mind.

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          The answer was already found with music streaming. Whether you’re using Spotify, Apple Music, or YouTube whatever, you’re still getting 99% of the same content. These companies compete on price and features not on content.

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            That case is a bit different. Most music streaming platforms haven’t leaned heavily into the production of exclusive content like Netflix or Amazon, or own a huge swath of IPs like Disney. We might get there yet, however…if we do, we’d likely see the same price hikes and fractured availability of content.

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              I would do the same as was the case with cinemas: anybody can buy any streaming content. If you produce a movie, you are forced to sell it to anybody who is willing to buy it. (Just like every cinema can have any movie which wasn’t the case back then. There were specific cinema exclusives before the law forced this shit out.)

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                This is the way. Unfortunately, it requires competent lawmakers that dares to target anti-competitive business practices. I guess we could pin our hopes on the EU, but they might not want to open this can of bees (yet). Besides, they are plenty busy dealing with all the other areas that the US allowed to run rampant, my guess is that there’s a hard limit to how much can can be targeted at once. Let them handle right-to-repair and big tech privacy violations first, since they don’t have soft solutions / workarounds.

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      Remember that every invention discovered and improvement made before capitalism, happened before capitalism.

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        Remember that even in a system in which workers own companies, those workers still want to make more money

        A profit motive is not unique to nor a product of capitalism.

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          Those workers still want to live. The money is the means- controlled by those with the most money.

          Capitalism and democracy as exclusive concepts.

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            None of this makes any sense, both on its face and as a response to my comment

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              Bold deconstruction of the argument. Capitalism didn’t invent iPhones, workers did. There are economic systems other than capitalism, that can do better, without the unilateral domination of capital.

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          Not making any profit does not imply running for losses.

          Many companies can run for minimal margins, ensuring they can pay staff, stock and services.

          Profit is what is left on the table after every expense is paid, including salaries, which usually doesn’t reach the workers pockets.

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            No but companies raising prices to make more money is absolutely related to making profit, and a worker-owned company still has a profit motive.

            Companies being able to run at a loss is a feature of capitalism, not a bug. Most small businesses do not turn a profit for two to three years.

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              If a company sets its mark at not making profit, it does not mean it runs at a loss.

              Was I unclear?

              Profit is what is left after all expenses are paid, including salaries, and a company can run with a non profit objective and still create jobs with fair salaries.

              Profit is the end goal for the so called investors that have no real involvement in the day to day operations of companies and demand quarterly reports with ever increasing revenue.

              If a company makes enough money to pay salaries, replenish stocks and/or provide ita services and pay its daily and monthly expenses it is not running on a loss. Profit is not a requirement for a business.

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                I am aware that non-profits exist as a concept, but that’s irrelevant to what we are discussing which is how profitability and viability are not necessarily linked

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        You act like capitalism is something that was invented. Market economies have existed since the dawn of time.

        Think of it more like a spectrum where free market and unregulated capitalism is on one end and economies under total state control are at the other.

        There is clear evidence that one side of that spectrum favors innovation more than the other.

        I guess you could argue that one end of the spectrum is more “moral” than the other, but I would counter that the opposite end is amoral rather than immoral.

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          1. You mean capitalism is inherent in the matrix of the space-time continuum as opposed to invented?

          2. Market economies have not all been capitalistic.

          3. Innovation is not the singular motivation of mankind. Survival, comfort, stability, peace, equality are more important.

          4. An amoral society is no better than an immoral society.

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      You had me until that utterly stupid drivel at the end. You cannot give credit to the system that happened to be in charge at the time…

      Then you’d have to thank Monarchy for a billion things that weren’t invented by monarchs…

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      Uber never made money because they chose to undercut prices of all competitors and bleed them out.

      I think that is only the first part of it. Uber invested a ton of money in autonomous vehicles. I think they were originally betting that they would undercut prices, bleed out competitors, and then be the only one who has the capital to deploy fleets of driverless vehicles.

      We are still far from having driverless vehicles and I think investors are realizing that so Uber upped their prices and lowered their pay. There is nothing revolutionary about them. They implemented a good tracking system and the ability for drivers to more easily figure out which rides would be best. They do not have that advantage anymore since taxi companies now largely have the exact same tech but without the massive overhead that Uber has.

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        Um, on what planet does Uber have higher overhead than a taxi co, unless you’re talking about debt service and maybe bandwidth? Uber doesn’t own anything except tech infrastructure and IP.

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      Also worth noting in the case of uber, even if price is equal with taxis, the experience is much better. Nicer cars, better drivers and much easier app use. Even at price parity, its a very superior product in most cases.

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        Other than the ease of app use I wouldn’t say any of these are accurate anymore. I’ve been in plenty of hoopties using Uber, dealt with drivers juggling different apps at once and literally driving past me with some other customer in the car on the way to their destination (while Uber app shows you your driver is arriving), and had plenty of awful drivers take me places. I think this was true in the beginning but once the facade came down and people realized they aren’t really making any money, Uber lowered their standards and took what they can get.

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    Is this surprising? The prices were always going to adjust to the market. Any new cheap thing that undercuts the market will eventually become the market as it becomes mainstream, and prices will be increased to what the market will bear to maximize profits.

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        I use WebTorrent nowadays, since it allows you to stream torrents. But before that, I also used qBittorrent, great application.

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        Sure. But torrents are for files which is different from streaming. And Kodi + Trakt is still far beyond Netflix.

        The costs to you with torrents are the relatively small risk you may get sued for a lot of money and/or the cost of covering up your activity with a VPN to make it harder to sue you.

        People who were always going to pirate are still always going to pirate. But companies like Netflix know that people will pay for a convenient, legal service with features they like. But if they start charging too much or make their platform suck, people will be more likely to cancel them and pirate.

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          Well that’s the difference, most people will pirate when it’s more convenient to do so. And as long as prices are so exorbitant.

          I pirate hockey games, because watching hockey is ridiculously inconvenient and/or expensive.

          I do not pirate music anymore, or video games because Apple Music is more convenient and not very expensive and steam has all the games I’d ever want to play, and has enough sales that it’s not that expensive either.

          I don’t pirate movies and tv shows because Netflix and Disney really cover anything I want to watch and anything else I share a crave subscription, like for Game of Thrones

          But I do pirate hockey games.

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      This is surprising from a naive market based perspective. Think about how TVs and computers have gotten cheaper and better. The hope was that this wouldn’t just be the same product with new players. The idea (or the lie if you prefer) was that the new technologies would lead to efficiencies so we can all get more for less.

      It just didn’t make any sense for something like Uber. It costs money to give someone a living wage and their app wasn’t going to change the fact that someone still had to drive the car. The whole idea made no sense, which is why they were racing to autonomous cars. That hasn’t panned out.

      I actually think streaming is a much better value than cable, even at the same price. Shows are higher quality and more plentiful. Many high quality movies are included. You’re also not required to get every package. Skip Paramount if you don’t want it. I still think streaming easily beats cable.

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        Exclusive rights to content are the problem here. There is no competition if the consumer has no choice (except not watching at all).

        There is a case here for legal separation between content production and distribution. Not just streaming services, it goes for any content, games, cinema, even patents.

        Uber on the other hand - I have a problem with their employment rights, not paying people or calling them “contractors” instead of employees.

        Otherwise it’s a great positive example of free market in practice. Someone had an idea for a new business model, tried it, it appeared to work for a couple of years, and now they will fail because it doesn’t have a long term perspective. It shook up existing monopolistic practices in the industry, and then tried to establish their own monopoly. And will fail because of that. It goes in circles.

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      I think the problem comes in with all the copyright and monopolization bs companies like Verizon and apple pull to remove all possible competition and allow them to jack up their prices

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      No it’s not surprising, we ALL STILL live in the same fucking capitalist nightmare.

      Anyone surprised is simply naïve and/or a literal child lol

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    Yarrrrr…shiver me timbers. Fly the Jolly Roger high matey, there be booty ta plunder!

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      There’s no finite land on the Internet. You’re just as free to set up your own server today as you were 30 years ago.

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        You can also set up your own ISP, news conglomerate, microchip factory, global shipping line, and a nuclear plant.

        It will take a while to get noticed, but in a few decades you can look forward to being bought up by the monopolies in the respective domains.

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      There’s just as much content on the internet as before, and that free and open content continues to grow at a faster rate then it ever did before. They didn’t have anything that the proprietary services of today offer, so there’s no “better days” comparison there.

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    The thing about unregulated capitalism is it will always fuck over society in favour of sociopaths. Unregulated capitalism rewards sociopaths because it focusses on profits above all else – shareholders get stupidly rich only if they don’t care about the damage done to workers and the public, sociopaths who don’t care about such damage can promise the highest profits, and that’s rewarded by a hyper-focus on the bottom line.

    Unregulated capitalism rewards ruthless cost-cutting, treating people like robotic assets, slash-and-burn corporate policies, and a culture of near-slavery.

    Adding new tech only makes inhumane policies easier to implement. It’s why people like Musk have more money than they could spend in a thousand lifetimes. When the goal is to maximise profits at all costs, of course the consumer will get fucked. That’s rather the point.

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      I probably first got the weird idea when I signed up for Gmail and they made a whole show and dance about how your storage space just continually increases. The little storage space ticker was animated to the point of annoyance.

      Today Google just annoys me with alerts that I’m 90% full and better give them money or else.

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      It starts out as $1.99 but everyone forgets that as life goes on they take more pictures and videos and have to keep upgrading cloud sevices to keep their memories intact.

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        Google provides a feature to compress the photos, it’s reeeally difficult to see a difference from the original. That saves a lot of space. It’s a good practice to delete blurry/repetitive pictures. With that, 100 GBs can last a long time.

        It’s a bigger problem with videos where higher bitrate/resolution make a difference and they consume a lot of storage.

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        keep their memories intact

        Most social media users are struggling to export their 500+GB of data. Too bad for their memories got owned by corporates.

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    It’s your fault for believing the promises of a salesman. Tech bros are just industrial middlemen who pedel new technological solutions for problems that may or may not benefit from it, but that doesn’t matter to them, they’re just here to sell the tech. Thats how they get paid.

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      There was never a world in which TV companies like Disney and NBC could lose cable subscribers (yes comcast manages the subs, but they pay Disney and NBC carriage fees from subscription fees) and make streaming cheaper than cable. So if you are losing a lot of money via cord cutting, and then you have the expense of standing up your own streaming service… Yeah, it’s going to probably cost the same as fees the cable company used to kick back to Disney. The difference is that if you want all the content from everyone, you need to then to get all the app subscriptions. However, you no longer get the bundled price that provided some discount via cable.

      I don’t know that there was ever a promise that streaming would be cheaper. It could be more a la carte, but the cost for the content was never going to change in the eyes of the tv companies that now have the added operation cost of maintaining an app.

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    Tech never promised anything. They cut the price for people to be dependent to them and then rise the price.

    It’s just basic capitalism.

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    You are paying money for streaming movies? Why?

    🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

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    Uber was never a tech proposition, it was a predatory disruptor.

    The streaming fiasco is sad but inevitable as greed does what greed does.

    Cloud was never primarily about price, the big cost save initially was to get rid of purchased or rented iron and locations but the main reason of the Big Switch was the scaleability and opportunities for quick deployment of new technologies and methodologies.

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      Uber may be predatory but in a lot of parts of the world, the taxi “system” is also a predatory racket. For both the drivers and the clients.

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        The way taxi co’s behaved, it’s not to wonder that Uber took off. Acting like a modern era guild system, intentionally taking long routes to drive up the price, etc. There’s no way that kind of behavior can succeed in an era where everyone has military-level accurate GPS mapping units in their pocket and greater impatience than ever with entrenched bullshit.

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      Cloud computing is very much like the timeshare computing of old. It’s the dream of every mainframe owner to keep the platters spinning. Ie, keep extracting computational rents for owning the big numbers boxes.

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    Streaming is now just as expensive and confusing as cable.

    Being a little bit melodramatic there. Streaming is nowhere near as expensive, confusing or hostile to consumers as cable was, unless you want access to every single service and show all at once. Anybody with a modicum of intelligence would only subscribe to one or two services at a time based on what they were watching in that period and still pay several times less than cable.

    It has become more pricey but that’s mainly because shows are fractured across many services now. Everybody and their fucking mother are now working to build their own streaming service after looking at Netflix’s meteoric success with dollar signs in their eyes and while it’s worse for the consumer, it’s also led to a lot of failure. Disney have hemorrhaged their profits due in large part to how much they’re diluting their brands with shitty DIsney+ spinoff series.

    When Disney, HBO, Netflix, Amazon, Paramount and all the other major players start locking you into lengthy multi-year contracts, hiding every single ‘cancel subscription’ button, forcing ads upon everybody (not just those on the cheaper ad-supported tier) and training entire call centres of outsourced wage slaves to make it as difficult as possible for you to unsubscribe, then we can talk.

    Ubers cost as much as taxis.

    What many forget is that Uber (and other gig-economy apps) skirted past loads of employment and safety laws to undercut their competition by doing shady shit like classing their drivers as ‘independent contractors’ to avoid even paying them the minimum wage. Earning potential as an Uber driver was basically nonexistent before the law caught up.

    AWS is set to start charging customers for an IPv4 address, a crucial internet protocol. Even before this decision, AWS costs had become a major issue in corporate boardrooms.

    Perhaps this is because IPv4 addresses are in limited supply and we’re very close to exhausting this supply, hence why IPv6 was introduced?

    What about security? Last month, Google, the third-largest cloud provider, started a pilot program in which thousands of its employees were limited to using work computers that were not connected to the internet, CNBC reported.

    The reason: Google is trying to reduce the risk of cyberattacks. If staff members have computers disconnected from the internet, hackers can’t compromise these devices and gain access to sensitive user data and software code.

    So, cloud services connected to the internet are great for everyone except Google? Not a great cloud sales pitch.

    Google’s strategy to restrict internet access for work devices is actually pretty clever, and honestly using this as a reason to doubt confidence in their cloud services is a stupid take.

    The difference is that these machines have elevated levels of access to Google’s servers when compared to the end user. All it takes is a Google employee clicking a dodgy attachment or link.