wasn’t this guy a genocidejoespam maximoleftismist before the election?
I actually don’t know what that means. Break it down for me?
You are free to start your own communities on that instance. Nothing is stopping you from starting liberal/democrat/lefist communities on there.
If you don’t like my communities, then create you own. That’s the beauty of the Fediverse, friends!
So to everyone calling me a troll: what is trolling about my behavior?
I post news articles from major news orgs. Some of which happen to be pro-conservative. That’s not what trolling is.
I don’t advocate violence. I don’t advocate anything racist. I don’t advocate anything radical. That’s not what trolling is.
I fucking post news articles. That you don’t have to read.
The conservative articles go to conservative communities. The socialist articles go to socialist communities. Most of my posts go to MY OWN COMMUNITIES! That’s not what trolling is.
Lemmy IS NOT a liberal-only online forum.
You all being mad and calling me a “troll” just because you don’t like articles about trump is hilarious to me. I have asked you all several times to just block the conservative communities I post in, and then you won’t see any of them.
Being mad just because I didn’t vote for Harris is a ridiculous reason to call me a troll. I didn’t vote for Trump either.
Ya’ll need to calm down and not take Lemmy so seriously! lol
You are allowed to create your own liberal communities. I am allowed to create my own conservative communities.
Even though I’m not conservative, I feel they have a right to partake in Lemmy.
And I’ll help them do that. Cool?
Thanks, friends!
Sure, if the instance the comms are on allows it, they have that right. Of course, looking at the member numbers, doesn’t look like any of them are taking you up on the offer for a safe place. I’ve heard the term echo chamber before, but you don’t even have enough people for that.
Of course, looking at the member numbers, doesn’t look like any of them are taking you up on the offer for a safe place. I’ve heard the term echo chamber before, but you don’t even have enough people for that.
So then it’s a win for you, right? I mean, I do my own thing and no one shows up. So cool
So instead of trying to get me banned, shouldn’t you just be laughing that no one cares about me? No reason to start entire threads about me, since no one cares, right?
No reason to be scared of little ole me. The guy no one shows up for.
And if there is a place for conservatives, and no one shows up, then win-win for you. Because Lemmy’s can say “Hey we don’t discriminate, there are places for conservatives!” And since no one goes there, then you don’t have to worry about it.
So no reason to be upset with me, right?
I just talking into the void to an audience of one. Right?
Shouldn’t the tone of this thread be, “hahaha Universal Monk is nothing! Look, no one is listening to him! How pathetic!” instead of "He’s dangerous, we gotta get rid of him. He’s ruining Lemmy!"
Right?
I’m not trying to get you banned. I don’t give a shit about you, other than finding a momentary bit of amusement at how sad and lonely the whole thing looks.
And I appreciate you saying that. Read the whole thread. You’ll find yourself in the minority when it comes to your banning opinion.
Now as for sad and lonely, then again, I’d argue that there is nothing to fear by having me be here.
Also for context, I’m retired early, I’m fit and healthy with a gf and a social life that is more active than I would prefer. There is nothing sad or lonely about my life.
I like the idea of Lemmy. I like posting on Lemmy. And I think all points of view (as long as legal) should be allowed.
I don’t take any of this shit seriously though. lmao I even have a selfie on my slrpnk instance of my name in a workout community I started.
The other people in this thread need to take shit less seriously though. lol
Even if this person is a troll, setting up all of these communities and making multiple posts all across the place to audience of none is pretty fucking sad. I mean, look at this:
This person actually spent time typing all of this as if they’re speaking to all of their close friends. And two days later there it still is with the one default upvote and no comments.
In fact, this is making me literally sad for this person now. They probably need professional help.
i reckon monk thinks they’re trolling. they certainly think they’re doing something.
it is uniquely sad to watch though, like an injured animal snapping at it’s only hope for assistance.
i reckon monk thinks they’re trolling. they certainly think they’re doing something.
I post links to articles I think are interesting, and I post those to appropriate communities that allow that content. People don’t have to click on the links, nor do they have to read them.
I agree with the implication that I’m not doing anything. So then why is everybody upset?
hahahahahahahah
Thanks, friend! :)
all across the place to audience of none
So if I am posting to an “audience of none,” then no reason you guys should be mad and call for me to be banned. I mean, after all, no one is reading me.
Right?
It occurs to me that this could be corporate or even governmental.
Otherwise it’s a lot of time and thought going into nothing or at best a long game. Very sad.
Otherwise it’s a lot of time and thought going into nothing
So if it’s “going into nothing,” then why is everyone so mad? If no one cares or reads, then no reason for people in this thread to be upset. Right?
How is that really an accomplishment? I mean, in a way breaking a window is a creative act. It changes something, makes it different.
But it doesn’t add any energy, any thought, any creative juice, to the human mix. It just contributes entropy. Made everything a little worse.
Working with chaos is always easier. It’s always easy to let the undertow pull you out to sea. It’s so much harder to fight it and swim back to shore.
But it doesn’t add any energy, any thought, any creative juice, to the human mix.
No, you mean you personally don’t THINK that it adds any of that. I realize that the majority of Lemmy’s are not conservative. But there are conservatives on Lemmy and they DO appreciate me, and I’ve gotten DM’s from them. But they are afraid to be public about it.
Is that really what you want Lemmy to be? People afraid to voice their real opinions because of bullying?
Let’s say this became a Twilight Zone episode. And suddenly overnite, Lemmy was majority Conservative.
And they said, “Guys, we should autoban anyone who is liberal or a Democrat. They’re all trolls.”
Now first off, you’d think, “of course conservatives are like that, they hate different opinions.” Then you’d be pissed.
Guess what? You all are the conservatives in this Twilight Zone episode.
Take every comment in this thread and switch out the words “conservative” with “liberal” or “leftist.” And see how hateful ti seems. Even tho you only changed the specific words.
I’m not a troll.
People here don’t like me. Cool. But that doesn’t mean I’m a troll.
I don’t post to make them hate me. I post, and they hate me. Big difference.
It’s intent.
I would be more than happy to be ignored. But that doesn’t mean I should get banned.
I mean, let’s face it. If I get banned, I could be back in 10 minutes with a totally different name. So it’s not the actually banning, it’s the principle.
And I will keep fighting for that principle. Ban or no ban.
I’m retired. I have all the fucking time in the world to argue.
This is automated, not even that hard to code. More so if done in an separate instance. Also not hard to detect and autoban in theory on regular instances.
Lemmy needs a decentralized reputation system where all the big instances score people automatically so the fakes don’t appear at all.
Hard to do in a manner that is resistant to gaming by bad actors (see: Reddit).
I’m not automated.
Yet.
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I wrote that. Its a first post for a new community for a new instance.
Gotta start somewhere. I’ll post more there today, too.
But thanks for worrying about me! That’s sweet. There’s also one on lemm.ee.
Universal Monk? Why does that name sound familiar? Is that one of those Trump trolls that was around pretending to be a leftist to depress dem turn out? If so: called it.
Yes
Fucking called it! And can i take the opportunity to just say; fuck .world and their mods, c/politics mods in particular. Man it’s nice to look back and be completely proven right. That dude is guaranteed to be at least two different people as well!
But you weren’t right. At all.
Plus you said I’d “disappear” after the election. And you said that I’m at “least two different people” as well. So wrong about those things as well.
Thanks, amiko!
We can still tell you’re multiple people running the account, buddy, your multiple speech patterns and 24/7 posting cycle gave it away. you also haven’t been trolling c/politics, so i was kinda right there as well.
We can still tell you’re multiple people running the account, buddy, your multiple speech patterns give it away.
Because not all the accounts are me. There is a concentrated effort to get rid of me. So there are imitators. But as for me, just me. And there are not multiple speech patterns.
I seem to remember you saying that when I was on .world too.
you also haven’t been trolling c/politics
Because I was banned there. So I have never posted there. If I were trolling or if I were a group of people, wouldn’t I just come up with an alternative name and continue posting there?
Expecially if I were “multiple people.” Dude, you wanna hate, go for it. But at least use logical arguments about why you think I’m an asshole.
What would be the goal of a “team” of me. Election is over. And Trump won by such a large margin that even if all the third party voters (which I advocate for) had voted for Harris, she would have still lost.
So what would be a purpose of a “team” of me. Please tell my your theories.
Just because Trump won that doesn’t mean your boss is going to stop astroturfing and trolling, manufacturing consent is a full time job. Your patterns are easy enough to see for anyone who wants to dig through your comments (or your old ones at least, I’m not interested in going through your modern ones to see if you guys got better at your job), you shift from this shitlib-y holier-than-thou attitude to someone who is way worse at trying to seem civil while baiting out responses. Not to mention the near constant engagement.
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Just because Trump won that doesn’t mean your boss is going to stop astroturfing and trolling, manufacturing consent is a full time job.
Who’s my boss? Friend, I’m retired. lol
Not to mention the near constant engagement.
Ohhh, you mean replying to people who ask me questions or talk shit to me. So replying to people makes me evil somehow?
Your patterns are easy enough to see for anyone who wants to dig through your comments (or your old ones at least, I’m not interested in going through your modern ones to see if you guys got better at your job)
So let’s show them. Let’s see some examples.
And let’s say that one day I DID decide to turn conservative (which hasn’t happened), that’s not against the law nor is it against Lemmy’s rules. Lemmy is not a liberal/left-only entity.
Heck, even if I DID vote for Trump, still not against the law, nor is it against Lemmy’s rules. Lemmy is not a liberal/left-only entity.
Besides, I votes socialist anyway. Which got me banned from .world. LMAO and no regrets, baaabby!
I’ll vote that way next election too. :)
I’m a socialist. Thanks, friend!
Define socialist
Sure! Someone who advocates for workers’ rights and supports the strengthening of labor unions as essential to improving working conditions and achieving economic equality. Which is why I contribute to and voted for the Socialist Workers Party. And I have even started several communities for them on different instances. And I own a mastadon account for them. And I run the x.com account for them.
I was in a teacher’s union for over 20 years.
Also a socialist upholds the value of free speech by defending the right to express diverse opinions, including conservative viewpoints, in the spirit of democratic engagement and dialogue.
We good, now?
You don’t know what a socialist is?
We know what socialists are, the question is do you?
Yes. Thanks.
If you know then answer, bonus points if you can answer how you think you fit in to that.
We wait to hear your answer.
Sure! Someone who advocates for workers’ rights and supports the strengthening of labor unions as essential to improving working conditions and achieving economic equality. Which is why I contribute to and voted for the Socialist Workers Party. And I have even started several communities for them on different instances. And I own a mastadon account for them. And I run the x.com account for them.
I was in a teacher’s union for over 20 years.
Also a socialist upholds the value of free speech by defending the right to express diverse opinions, including conservative viewpoints, in the spirit of democratic engagement and dialogue.
We good, now?
Lemmy.world needs to get with times and institute a “no fascists” rule that autobans American conservatives.
That sounds like a fascist idea.
Being anti-fascist sounds like a fascist idea?
Edit: I agree that conservatives are not necessarily fascists. It’s just that fascists have historically loved spitting into the same cup as conservatives and happily drinking the cup together. Moreover, fascists censor or assassinate people who dare to question the dogma that ‘corporations are never wrong’, that ‘ultra-nationalism is definitely not an excuse to exploit workers’, or that ‘some people aren’t people’. Conservatives have, historically, been more than happy with the censorship or the assassination of those who point out that fascists are irresponsible, that fascists are obsessed with the shape of their belly-buttons, or that fascists are scared of anyone who doesn’t fit into the tiny conceptual boxes that fascists have in their head.
Huh, that’s strange.
I have no record of the comment you’re replying to, and I only block fascists and liars.
Cool. I am neither, so looks like you block more than that.
Banning people just because they are conservative sure does. The person I replied to said: “that autobans American conservatives.”
It sounds as if, for you, fascism means censoring or banning others, or at the very least banning conservatives. Do you really believe that’s what it means? Is every person who censors or bans others (or at least conservatives) a fascist?
The neoliberal and pro-capitalist dictator Pinochet gathered thousands of people in stadiums and would torture or execute them. The same neoliberal and pro-capitalist dictator would wrap people in wire and railroad parts, and send them on a death-trip on helicopter to be dropped in a river to their deaths.
If the president of China gathered people in stadiums and tortured them or executed them, would that be neoliberalism or pro-capitalism? If the president of China wrapped people in wire or railroad parts, and sent them on a death-trip on helicopter to be dropped in a river to their deaths, would that be neoliberalism or pro-capitalism?
If the above is too complicated, here’s the simple version: Let’s say I have a table that’s held together by screws. Furthermore, let’s say I also have a calculator that’s held together by screws. Is it accurate to say that, since both have screws, both are tables?
Putting the definition of fascism aside, do you know the paradox of tolerance?
Is every American conservative and/or Republican a fascist? Because that’s what I’m arguing against.
Ah. You bring up a good point. I see how my previous comments were not accurate. I edited one of them and I’ll copy the edit here:
I agree that conservatives are not necessarily fascists. It’s just that fascists have historically loved spitting into the same cup as conservatives and happily drinking the cup together. Moreover, fascists censor or assassinate people who dare to question the dogma that ‘corporations are never wrong’, that ‘ultra-nationalism is definitely not an excuse to exploit workers’, or that ‘some people aren’t people’. Conservatives have, historically, been more than happy with the censorship or the assassination of anti-fascists.
Just to be clear, since the word fascism is the one we’re talking about: Who are anti-fascists? People who point out that the fascist emperor has no clothes. Who are anti-fascists? People who point out that fascists at the very least make mistakes like any other human (and at most are genocidal, radical, maniacs). Who are anti-fascists? People who point out that fascists are obsessed with the shape of their belly-buttons. Who are anti-fascists? People who point out that fascists are scared of anyone who doesn’t fit into the tiny conceptual boxes that fascists have in their tiny heads.
I also understand that, in some groups, the historically-informed definition of fascism (as tied to capitalism, ultra-nationalism, and the dehumanization of people) is ignored. The word is used as a paint-ball gun to paint anything that they don’t like with the word “fascism”.
To the extent that fascism is tied to its ‘corporations are never wrong’, ‘ultra-nationalism is definitely not an excuse to exploit workers’, 'or its ‘some people aren’t people’ roots, the label “fascist” fits Trump just like Cinderella’s shoe fits her foot. And, given the paradox of tolerance, it would make sense to defend tolerance from fascists and therefore protect democracy from fascists.
I agree that conservatives are not necessarily fascists. It’s just that fascists have historically loved spitting into the same cup as conservatives and happily drinking the cup together.
Ok, now I can accept that opinion.
Conservatives have, historically, been more than happy with the censorship
I’m seeing LOTS of Lemmy leaning that way. Just look at this thread. People are saying I’m a conservative so I should be banned. For posting links to news articles from major news orgs. Which if people just blocked c/conservative and c/politicsunifltered, they wouldn’t see anyway. Not to mention that no one is making them click on the links.
I am not pro-fascist. I am pro-speech. I don’t think I should be banned for posting a news article about Trump, from APNews to a c/conservative community.
I think you and I, agree on more stuff than we disagree on. I actually voted Socialist Workers Party, and I created and mod Socialst Workers Party communities, run a mastadon instance for them and their x.com account.
Sure if you can’t define fascism
TrumpsTruth
sounds like a ripoff of my community what the heck
It wasn’t. What’s the link to your community?
what a wannabe nobody could compare to you my chad
@SatansMaggotyCumFart check this out. Universal Monk made a fake you
Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
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Right? But to be clear, I’m not the one who flattered you. Cuz he did me too.
Wait, does that mean that we are like, best friends now? Yes!!!
Not me. There’s also fake ones of me too using same graphics and same wording. And there’s also one out there that uses my exact profile and wording, so not sure if same guy.
There was a dude who made a program to track all my posting times and how many posts I posted and would post it daily at the same time I made posts. So maybe him/her? I don’t know. I have lots of stalkers in my fan club.
But there’s def a troll trolling those of us who they think are the trolliest of trolls I guess: @UniversalMonk@sopuli.xyz
Guys I really think we should actually do something about these trolls
CC: @QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz @Moxvallix@sopuli.xyz @imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works @kersploosh@sh.itjust.works @InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works
I banned a few of them from SJW yesterday. When I get some free time I can go through the list of candidates and ban the obvious impersonators. It would be easier if UniversalMonk didn’t have so many alts to begin with.
But I have to have so many alts because of things happening like this very thread. People calling me out for banning. For posting links to news articles written by major news pubs.
But I am totally fine with you banning the impersonators. Would you like me to go thru the list and tell which ones are not me? First off, any that say “Real” are not me. But some of the others aren’t either.
But I have to have so many alts because of things happening like this very thread. People calling me out for banning.
Is that you openly admitting to ban evasion, as in creating multiple accounts so that admins have to put in more work banning you? @kersploosh@sh.itjust.works I think you might want to take that into consideration of your judgement of this person, since they are clearly being banned a lot and are deciding to circumvent those bans openly. Probably better to just ban all of them, impersonation or not. Since they already admit they’re using the other accounts to evade bans.
Is that you openly admitting to ban evasion
It’s not ban evasion because I don’t post on instances or in communities that I have been banned from. Ban evasion is coming up with an alternative name in order to CONTINUE to post to communities that one was BANNED FROM.
I don’t do that. If an instance bans me, I don’t post to that community.
Dude, think about it. I kept the SAME FUCKING USERNAME! If I wanted to evade a ban, I’d choose a different name. I mean, pretty easy to catch me if I’m using the same fucking name, right?!
The fediverse is the way it is in order to prevent small groups of people from controlling the narrative.
Which is what you are trying to do. You don’t like what I have to say, so you think I should be banned.
Seriously!
Give me an example of something I have said or posted that is deserving of a ban. Go ahead. Post it here. And you can’t use anything said on .world, because I was banned from there and never have posted there since (and I stand by everything I said when I was there, by the way.).
So come on, friend. Post an example here in this thread of something I have said or done that is ban-worthy. I don’t ban evade. I have never posted anything racist (I’m bi-racial.) I’ve never posted thing transphobic or anti-gay (I’m bisexual). I’ve never advocated for violence–in fact I have called others out for advocating it and in fact reported them.
I post news articles that you don’t like. Which by the way are created by MAJOR PUBLIC popular news orgs.
So come on, show me a post that you think is ban-worthy. In this thread. For all to see.
And don’t forget: UniversalMonk@sopuli.xyz
Cuz that’s not me either.
Got it. It’s banning time!
Seems a thing. Is there some fediverse law against conservative viewpoints and communities on Lemmy? There are liberal ones.
Surely you wouldn’t want this to be a one-sided echo chamber. Right?
I’m not conservative, but I think their viewpoints should be allowed.
https://lemmyusa.com/post/202463
Is this your post?
Yep.
Okay so I checked that post and like… if more than a few people are celebrating that you’re not around anymore, maybe you need to do some self-reflection.
That would be reasonable, but… nah…
Think about WHY they don’t want me here. I don’t advocate violence. I don’t engage in name-calling (tho they like to call me names), I don’t do anything but post news articles that are already published by big popular news orgs.
But because I don’t have the exact opinion on everything as them, they want me gone.
So nah, not going anywhere. Even if you ban me on this instance, or all instances, or my username, or whatever.
I’m not leaving the fediverse. I will continue advocating for opinions from alternative points of view, regardless of political leanings.
And regardless of what happens with my username.
I’m not trolling. If I were, I’d be much more subtle and clever about it.
Thanks amiko!!
