• Thurstylark@lemm.ee
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          Providing something that is broken is very different from not providing it at all.

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            Right but…they did provide it. And now they’re not. You wouldn’t call removing that encryption “breaking”?

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                What does your behavior have to do with whether or not the encryption is broken?

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                  Social media doesn’t do nuance.

                  No encryption was broken.

                  Broken would imply that Apple has the ability to decrypt stored user data using advanced data protection. This is not the case.

                  Selling you a box to put your stuff in and selling someone else a locked box to put their stuff in doesn’t mean Apple broke into your box. It means your big brother won’t let you have locks.

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                    Broken would imply that Apple has the ability to decrypt stored user data using advanced data protection.

                    …is that not what they’re doing?

                • qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website
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                  Lemmy is not encrypted, my comments are public, your comments are public, we both know that. Anyone with a raspberry pi or an old netbook can scrape them.

                  If I use an encrypted service and all of a sudden everything that I thought was encrypted was decrypted by the service provider without my consent? That’s breaking encryption.

                  If on the other hand I use an encrypted service and they tell me that they can no longer offer the service, my data will be destroyed after X days, and I need to find another way of storing my encrypted data because of privacy invading government policies? That is not breaking encryption.

                  • Ulrich@feddit.org
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                    tell me that they can no longer offer the service, my data will be destroyed after X days, and I need to find another way of storing my encrypted data

                    Oh that makes much more sense.

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              No.
              Users that do not decrypt their storage lose their storage permanently.
              Users that decrypt their storage get to continue to use it, but it isn’t not encrypted.

              No encryption is broken.
              Users are swapping convenience for privacy. (Or privacy for convenience? Whichever way that is).

              Broken implies it is unusable or useless. As in “Apples encryption is unusable”.
              This is not the case. It’s not broken. Users are given the option to remove the encryption to be able to continue to use the storage.

              Essentially: https://xkcd.com/538/

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                I always see that one and think “goddamn they’d kill me because I’d never remember the password after the drugs hit, and the more they hit me the less I’ll be able to focus and remember”

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              Not as it is conventionally used.

              If you break a lock, that’s different from unlocking it and removing it.

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      Apple stopped providing encrypted storage, but they didnt unencrypt the existing storage for governments to see.