cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26471893

Summary

Trump is revoking collective bargaining rights at the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), ending union protections for thousands of airport security officers.

The Department of Homeland Security claims the move will improve efficiency and security, but unions argue it is a retaliatory attack on federal workers.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) plans to challenge the decision. TSA workers fear the rollback will worsen working conditions and retention.

The policy reverses union rights granted under Obama and expanded by Biden.

  • Bigfish@lemmynsfw.com
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    Y’all missing the point. Fuck cops sure. But an attack on one union is an attack on unions. Push to abolish the TSA AND support their collective rights.

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    TSA is part of the whole post 9/11 patriot act authoritarian push. It needs to end. It was a pointless unnecessary overreaction then, and it remains so.

    TSA are cops. And cops aren’t workers. They’re class traitors. The enforcement arm of capital.

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      22 hours ago

      But that’s the spin. Trump didn’t try to break the TSA union.

      Trump is trying to break a cop union.

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    Boss: I’ve decided to pay you shit wages and expect you to work nightmare hours.

    Union: We’ve all banded together and would collectively like to tell you that we prefer better wages and more reasonable hours, or else we will strike.

    Boss: I’ve decided you can’t do that, or else.

    Union: Yes, or else, indeed. That’s the core concept here.

    Call his fuckin’ bluff, or else you don’t really have a union at all.

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      I would love to hear about the day TSA simply didn’t show up. Make this happen, folks.

      All their options to deal with it are embarrassing for the stooges in charge.

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        Just sounds like a win-win. The fascists no longer have their travel cops, and people no longer have to deal with the useless bullshit of the TSA.

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      Ronald Reagan did exactly that with air traffic controllers. Fired the lot of them.

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    You want to piss off employees who keep terrorists, drugs, and weapons out of the country?

    On second thought… yes, he does, because he isn’t working for Americans.

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      Except the TSA has never shown to be remotely effective at doing any of that.

      I’m of the opinion that the TSA should probably be abolished, but keeping it while abusing its employees is the worst of both worlds…

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        Worst jobs program ever, all you need is a good metal detector and that’s it. The security theater after 9/11 has been and always will be a joke.

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        Except the TSA has never shown to be remotely effective at doing any of that.

        So, we’d all be OK if these 6,000+ loaded firearms PER YEAR were allowed to pass through unchecked?

        There’s always room for improvement, but the idea that everything needs to be abolished, rather than improved, seems crazy.

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        There is no way to quantify the number of attacks that would have happened without the TSA. “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”. The TSA is a very effective deterrent.

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          Oh, my friend, of course we can quantify it. There was a time when TSA didn’t exist. And of course many other countries don’t have TSA.

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        Bust/siezing data must be classified. I bet Congress has access to it, no?

        Also many “mundane” duties of customs are important. Like keeping parasites or invasive species out.

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          TSA has nothing to do with customs, who do an actual important job as you note. TSA is strictly domestic “security”

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            Ah yeah I mixed that up.

            People are kinda crazy though. It doesn’t have to be so extreme, they aren’t going to stop a smart/motivated terrorist, but I think a deterrent against some poor soul bringing their family gun on board is a good idea.

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              Hey, maybe they’re a deterrent but they definitely don’t have a good track record. I just miss when you could see your friend or family member off to the gate. Now it’s just another part of the misery factory that is air travel.

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      TSA is worthless, my friend. Nobody should support their agency. Fire them all, please. I do, however, support workers unionizing and striking, and if that is TSA employees, high five.

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    TSA are cops. Do we show solidarity with cop unions?