The secretary of state, heading to talks with Ukrainian officials in Saudi Arabia, said future talks with Moscow will be needed to determine what Russia is willing to give up to end the war.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday that Ukraine would have to make concessions over land that Russia had taken since 2014 as part of any agreement to end the war.

Mr. Rubio spoke as he was flying to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, for talks with senior Ukrainian officials, and 10 days after a contentious White House meeting between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. The Trump administration halted military aid to Ukraine after the blowup, which centered on Mr. Trump’s refusal to include any security guarantees in a proposed deal involving Ukraine’s natural resources.

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  • FinishingDutch@lemmy.worldEnglish
    721·
    10 hours ago

    I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

    If someone breaks into your house, kicks your dog and rapes your wife, you don’t negotiate to let them keep your TV. You shoot that fucker between the eyes. That’s what we need to be doing.

  • Lit@lemmy.worldEnglish
    34·
    9 hours ago

    I don’t see any peace deal unless there is security guarantees, it is not peace without guarantees.

    This just embolden russia to rape Ukraine again for more lands. Marco Rubio is promoting a forever war.

  • CobraChicken3000@lemmy.caEnglish
    32·
    12 hours ago

    Without security guarantees, this isn’t a “peace” deal, it’s a capitulation and an invitation for future aggression from Russia.

  • SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    16·
    11 hours ago

    I don’t see any peace deal happening that doesn’t involve ceding territory.

    That said if I were Zelenskyy I would tell the US to pound sand and find someone else to mediate a more favourable deal, maybe Türkiye.

  • Nunar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    10 hours ago

    Rubio is a snowflake bitch. As bad as Americans are right now, we’re going to eat him in 2-3 years. Stay strong! Slava Ukraine!

  • DaveyRocket@lemmy.worldEnglish
    35·
    18 hours ago

    Why would Ukraine be negotiating with another adversary? That’s like a boxer going to the wrong corner after the round, that guy also wants you to get your ass kicked.

  • rylock@lemm.eeEnglish
    118·
    22 hours ago

    “Turns out, Russia doesn’t want to concede anything and demanded more Ukrainian land. Well, we tried. Clearly, it’s high time for Ukraine to stop getting in the way of peace.”

    • Little Marco in a week
  • Yawweee877h444@lemmy.worldEnglish
    81·
    22 hours ago

    At the rate we’re going, I wouldn’t be surprised if trump drops all sanctions against Russia, and starts even funding them and providing them US weapons and Intel. I just wouldn’t be surprised.

    • Makeitstop@lemmy.worldEnglish
      56·
      21 hours ago

      I would assume they’re getting the Intel already. The entire administration is comprised of Russian assets and useful idiots. Even if the info isn’t being handed to them directly, all the existing security is being ripped to shreds and the teams that would counter any threats have officially been told to ignore Russia completely.

      That said, I wouldn’t put it past Trump to publicly give Intel to Russia, but only because he’s an idiot and assuming there is a low he won’t sink to his always a losing bet.

      • Yawweee877h444@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        20 hours ago

        I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re already in a slow rollout for him to go public with support for Russia. The deal could be that Russia and US split Ukraine in some way, whether it stays as “Ukraine” with installed leadership or blatantly annexed.

        The problem is the maga cult and the Republicans in congress who would support it. The maga masses will lap up whatever propaganda they’re fed like puppies and a bowl of peanut butter. But what the fuck are the Republican leadership thinking? At that point the US has fallen, but maybe it already has and we just don’t know yet. But maybe not… time will tell.

    • Sludgehammer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      16 hours ago

      I’d say it’s a given at this point.

      Trump has offended pretty much all of our major trade partners, so we need a new market to sell US goods as well as replace our imports. As it just so happens, Russia desperately needs goods due to the sanctions and has a reduced manufacturing capacity as a result of marching all their young (and not so young) men into a meat grinder. And even though Putin is a backstabbing, murderous, KGB thug Trump knows that he won’t touch him, because Trump’s just too useful of a flunky.

      Granted it’s a morally repugnant move, but when has that ever stopped Trump?