The Vermont senator, who has long had a tense relationship with the Democratic Party, suggested in an interview that more progressives should join him in running as independents.
Fuck yeah, there it is. Let’s go. New party. This one’s dead. November was the DNC’s last chance. Time for a new party. DNC leadership and political consultants aren’t allowed anywhere near this one.
The decision needs to be made right now, because there are always going to be those that encourage voting 3rd party like 3 months before the election even though none of the groundwork has been done for the previous 4 years.
If the work is started now it’s a lot better then 3 months before the election where it really just syphons votes away from at least preventing Republicans from winning.
I don’t see the Democratic leadership making the right moves, they’re not going to align themselves with the general public. They keep trying to woo moderate Republicans instead of the huge amount of voters who they could easily get.
I don’t consider Libertarians or Greens a real third party, they only come out every four years and only care about fund raising by taking advantage of voter frustration with the Dems and GOP.
I think it’s worth a shot, but there’s only a year left to go for it. If it can’t get the ground swell in a year to get a bunch of candidates ready to get local gov positions, it’s unlikely to work by the midterms. And I think the midterms are the best shot to gain ground.
But what do I know? If I was smarter and more knowledgeable, I’d be able to help start it. But I’d certainly help the movement.
Fuck it. Look where we’re at now, the only safe bet is that the Democrats will not change and this cycle will continue indefinitely until something else takes over.
Fwiw, that was my logic up until the election. I fully admit I was wrong. The DNC is simply not capable of mounting a winning campaign in this context. It has atrophied into an unrecoverable state. Refactoring is not going to be useful. A new project is the best way forward.
Fuck yeah, there it is. Let’s go. New party. This one’s dead. November was the DNC’s last chance. Time for a new party. DNC leadership and political consultants aren’t allowed anywhere near this one.
I love it but it’s real risky
Can it get any worse?
The decision needs to be made right now, because there are always going to be those that encourage voting 3rd party like 3 months before the election even though none of the groundwork has been done for the previous 4 years.
If the work is started now it’s a lot better then 3 months before the election where it really just syphons votes away from at least preventing Republicans from winning.
It can always get worse. I agree with you.
I don’t see the Democratic leadership making the right moves, they’re not going to align themselves with the general public. They keep trying to woo moderate Republicans instead of the huge amount of voters who they could easily get.
I don’t consider Libertarians or Greens a real third party, they only come out every four years and only care about fund raising by taking advantage of voter frustration with the Dems and GOP.
I think it’s worth a shot, but there’s only a year left to go for it. If it can’t get the ground swell in a year to get a bunch of candidates ready to get local gov positions, it’s unlikely to work by the midterms. And I think the midterms are the best shot to gain ground.
But what do I know? If I was smarter and more knowledgeable, I’d be able to help start it. But I’d certainly help the movement.
Fuck it. Look where we’re at now, the only safe bet is that the Democrats will not change and this cycle will continue indefinitely until something else takes over.
How would it be worse than the current situation?
Fwiw, that was my logic up until the election. I fully admit I was wrong. The DNC is simply not capable of mounting a winning campaign in this context. It has atrophied into an unrecoverable state. Refactoring is not going to be useful. A new project is the best way forward.