The background is Blue.

The words are MAGA.

I wonder if there is a term for this.

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    I just wrote a book that says that Chuck Schumer’s house is on my ancestral homeland, because my deity says so. That makes it Chuck’s fault when I drop bombs on it.

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      Does it have to be written in a book to qualify? I’m pretty sure there are several Native American tribes that might have something to say about this.

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        Counterpoint for Judaism: The Torah explicitly states that Jews do not own the land until the Messiah returns. So technically Shumer is not correct

        Religious Jews from organisations such as Naturei Karta frequently demonstrate against Israel.

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          Bar Kokhba was identified as their messiah, during the third and last Roman-Jewish war. Bar Kokhba genocided every greek and roman person he could find and created a new “Israel” for about 2 years. The Romans eventually marched back in with a massive army of 12 legions and counter genocided the whole place, shattering Judaism for a millenia.

          I’d recommend reading the wikipedia articles from 2021, as that wikipedia has been a battleground of rewrites in the past 4 years, all focussed on rewriting it completely to change the narrative to Romans: pretty bad, jewish rebels: pretty good.

          heres the older version: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bar_Kokhba_revolt&oldid=1039570569

          Heres the current rewritten one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt

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        Not that I support it but the Vatican is VERY DIFFERENT than Israel. It has no real power by design and is not an autonomous country by any means

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          It has no real power

          The Vatican? I mean, some number of billion dollars and quite an impressive userbase.

          I think you meant like armies and weapons etc., though, which is fair enough.

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              Uhhh… They have kind of absurd political power. The Vatican is essentially the decision making body of something a close to an international political business with a history of teaming up with governments to support initiatives.

              Like look at the genocidal regime of residential schools in Canada. While they were a government initiative 2/3 of them were run directly by the Catholic church.

              Political power doesn’t always mean strictly “interfaces directly with official government” either. Politics is the web of citizen buy in to how the world should be run. The Catholic Church is incredibly influential on citizens many of whom take the directives of the church and translate it into agency in a multitude of ways. It’s not a perfect control but it’s certainly used to shape the political landscape the world over.

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              While I agree with your premise they did plan an assassination of the leader of a country back in the late 30s early 40s. Everyone was just cool with it because it was Hitler.

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              The couch fucker, untold numbers of the Trump admin (including RFK), and half the Supreme Court are a Catholics, and not the friendly rapist grandpa kind, the weird no contraceptive, private schooling, and also rapist conservative Catholics.

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        It’s amazing how many opinions are framed as if the world has a Mom and Dad who should be enforcing what’s right.

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    I recently did some wiki digging into the formation of Israel and it legitimately surprised me how illegitimate the country is. They were given land (not a state) and welcomed by Palestinians, then they flipped their shit over time and took everything. They were not oppressed but radicalized over imaginary oppression and used it as a tool to oppress Palestine.

    The whole world is complicit or gaslit into buying this garbage. Insane that the two state solution is seen as compromise to Palestinians when it should be considered the only compromise given to Israel.

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      This prompted me to do a wiki dig. TIL Israel was founded by an actual Jewish Nazi group and they even named a military ribbon after them.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)?wprov=sfla1

      In April 1948, Lehi and the Irgun were jointly responsible for the massacre in Deir Yassin of at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children. Lehi assassinated Lord Moyne, British Minister Resident in the Middle East, and made many other attacks on the British in Palestine. On 29 May 1948, the government of Israel, having inducted its activist members into the Israel Defense Forces, formally disbanded Lehi, though some of its members carried out one more terrorist act, the assassination of Folke Bernadotte some months later, an act condemned by Bernadotte’s replacement as mediator, Ralph Bunche. After the assassination, the new Israeli government declared Lehi a terrorist organization, arresting some 200 members and convicting some of the leaders. Just before the first Israeli elections in January 1949, a general amnesty to Lehi members was granted by the government. In 1980, Israel instituted a military decoration, an “award for activity in the struggle for the establishment of Israel”, the Lehi ribbon. Former Lehi leader Yitzhak Shamir became Prime Minister of Israel in 1983.

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        Dug up something called Banner of the Zionist Gang so I googled it and these are the first two images.

        On the left is standard Soviet propaganda, racism included, and on the right is the symbol of the actual Jewish Nazi gang being sold on fucking Amazon

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      When I started to learn about it i thought it was the first account I had heard of documenting precisely why a country should never allow unchecked immigration… -Not that the palestinians were given much of a choice by their british colonizers.

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      How about this as a compromise: all adults get to vote and the right to freedom of religion is unassailable. Why isn’t that on the table?

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        Israel wants to be a Jewish state, so secular humanism wouldn’t be a compatible policy they’d agree to.

        I don’t think there is a two state solution because of how intertwined the West Bank is.

        I don’t think there is a one state solution because of how much all the sides hate eachother.

        The whole area is a festering wound on the face of our common humanity. We need to administer antibiotic and depose the leaders who spread hate in the area from within and from the outside like Schumer here. “They don’t believe in the Torah”, why should any book have final say?

        Edit: I have no idea why you’re getting downvoted. I wish what you were saying was possible. In any sane country it would be reasonable.

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          I understand that most nations were founded via genocide, but can you imagine feeling any pride on your country whatsoever when the whole world is regularly watching 4K footage of your nation bombing destitute women & children?

          Like, goddamn.

          Israel is forever cursed by its own cruelty.

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        That’s the One State solution, and it isn’t on the table because it’s unacceptable to Israel.

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    Just a reminder, no, the torah explicitly says jews have no nation because they offended god. Until god himself comes down and reverses that decision, jews adhering to their religion cannot be members of government for a state owned and controlled by jewish people.

    Zionism is antisemitic, and the opposite of the jewish religion.

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    It’s insane how many people have died because of arguments over who has the best Invisible Friend.

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      What’s even worse is they all have the same invisible friend, it’s just their rules that are different. God, Allah, Jehovah, Jah, YHWH, whatever you wanna call him, all the same guy. But somehow all the rules about what you’re allowed to do and how you need to worship, those are all in different books written by different people at different periods in history.

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        I guess monotheistic religions just have in common that everyone believes in their own truth, and instead of accepting the differences, feel the need to go to war over it.

        Maybe all those religions need to be banned, and only allow heno- or polytheistic ones. Especially the polytheistic religions seem much more exciting. But of course it is much more difficult to control the common folk with those.

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    Look at what he stands for.

    Look at what he caves on.

    Genocide is centrism’s only actual policy.

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    And if I say your book is blasphemy? Jesus, no pun intended, these religious weirdos just can’t take the hint that maybe their religious texts are total BS. They truly don’t believe in religious freedom.

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    Same logic evangelical Christians use to oppress LGBTQ folks here at home, Chuck. But you knew that, which is why you don’t care about that either, beyond your performative outrage to get votes.

    These crusty old dirt worshipers need to go. Every last one of them.

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        I wish I could say yes, and maybe between shit like this and Elon threatening Social Security there will be enough angry people to make a third party viable, but I’m not holding my breath on that. This country has been in love with binary choice since the beginning. Everything is black or white, good or evil, win or lose, right or wrong, us or them… You introduce any kind of nuance and people lose their fucking minds.

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        Start building one. Use the annuals and the biannual elections as proofs of concept. Right now I’m more open to voting 3rd party than ever before but I’m not wasting my vote

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    So if I find an older book that says Israel belongs to me and only me they have to leave and I can turn the Wailing Wall into a sick half pipe?

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    If this chucklefuck showed up to your door and said that your home is now part of the Jewish state because the Torah said so, I think we know how most people would respond.

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        Yeah Hamas is kind of irrelevant here. Palestinians were living on that land and then some folk showed up and said “sorry our book says we’re supposed to be here, please leave”

        Its the equivalent of someone trying to claim your seat at the theatre halfway into the movie and the proof they show you is something they’ve scribbled on a napkin. It would not fly for most people.

        I understand it’s essentially settler-colonialism in practice, which is foundational to modern western civilization. But that doesn’t make it right.

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        One time I punched a guy in the face, and then he called me an asshole. If he didn’t want to get punched in the face, he shouldn’t have called me an asshole.

        - Ben Netanyahu, basically

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        No, the basis for hamas was the founders family being killed in front of him by fascists.

        Hamas only exist, and solely exists, as resistance to occupation. A group will always exist like hamas, using the same tactics and beliefs. Hamas, unlike israel by the way, doesn’t discriminate based on religion.

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          Have you got a source for that family killing bit? Can’t find anything that talks about that. Tried both co-founders wiki pages, tried the hamas wiki page and also tried basic searching like 'hamas founder family killed" and got nothing.

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    So if I write a book that says Chuck Schumer has to be my bitch, he has to do it?

    It’s in a book after all

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          Lol someone’s pissy.

          I know your position, and share much of it. But I’ve also grown enough to learn that religions exist in many forms, many are cults and evil, but blaming the issues in Palestine on religion is a childish diversion. They were choosing between that and fucking Argentina when deciding where to found Israel and felt it more important to have a foothold in the middle east.

          Religion was the excuse.

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            In the 70s the Nixon administration worked with celebrity megachurch pastors to manufacture abortion as a wedge issue and guarentee a loyal voterbase for the Republican party, as they saw their support from conservatives and liberal democrats dwindling in the face of the Vietnam war.

            This practice continued under Reagan, he started attempting to defund churches not pushing anti abortion rhetoric.

            This continued for 20 or so years until today, where American Christians collectively support the Nazi party.

            Religon is always the probelm, it’s a control mechanism from thousands of years ago that is no longer necessary in our society, but this dangerous tool is just left lying around for any con man to take advantage of.

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              Religon is always the probelm, it’s a control mechanism from thousands of years ago that is no longer necessary in our society, but this dangerous tool is just left lying around for any con man to take advantage of.

              Colonizer mindset

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                And what is yours? A slave mindset?

                I think indoctrinating children into cults that fundamentally require detaching understanding from beleif isn’t something that is harmful or prepares them to be taken advantage of by people who talk to them like their pastor has and takes advantage of that conditioning.

                Organized religion should be banned. If you want to talk to Sky Daddy, do it in your own home, stop organizing and ruining our societies please!