You have to laugh … I remember Glastonbury, up to my knees in mud - it’s all part of the fun. Having said that, it’s unlikely turn into a survival situation in a field in Somerset, so not really that comparable …
The weather-related disruptions have caused suspension of the cleaning and emptying of thousands of portable toilets.
This sounds nightmarish. People will start avoiding the portable toilets and it will be even worse.
Yeah, this bit stood out for me also!
Last time I was out there just because I couldn’t find a toilet I just squatted. Of course dig and bury if it’s shit. But Def need to walk a ways from the camps if it’s still wet.
Rain outs like this are pretty common at these festivals. The difference here is that I guess it is a bit harder to leave and more remote? I’d say 20% of the festivals I’ve been to have had some degree of mud issue resulting in some degree of infrastructure breakdown.
Burning Man is in a dry alkali lakebed way out in the middle of nowhere. Normally it’s extremely hot and dry the entire time, the ground isn’t dirt but a very fine powder that blows everywhere. When it rains that fine powder turns into this incredibly sticky mud and it becomes extremely difficult to move. It’s quite a bit different than your standard muddy field kind of experience.
It’s almost as if 70K people shouldn’t be out there…
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Because there’s no infrastructure, leading to less than an inch of rain causing chaos? Did you read the article?
This mindset leads to no one doing anything interesting ever.
Skiing, sailing, scuba diving…none of it makes any real sense as the environments do not tend to have much infrastructure for human survival. But I can’t imagine life without any illogical recreational activities such as these. It’s fun.
Do you… think people don’t live in the mountains? Or that a tiny amount of rain will sink a boat?
That’s… only something someone from Southern California would think. Rain won’t hurt you unless you stupidly pack tens of thousands of people into an area with no infrastructure.
Apparently because it’s alkali dirt, it leads to nasty wounds if it stays on skin for a while. Even in a dry year, people were supposed to use vinegar to clean dust off themselves so it wouldn’t cause problems. Who wants to bet that many of the people covered in mud didn’t have enough vinegar, or maybe didn’t even have any.
Radical inclusion now includes cholera
I legitimately hope no one gets hurt but I couldn’t resist
Woodstock 99 energy
Or Fyre Festival
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I’m stuck here in the sex orgy tent…send help…
but not too quickly, take your time.
Help is cumming.
Thread is giving me oglaf comic vibes
So are the cookers
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Joke’s on you. He took his house with him.
We’re here to save you from the virgins, Lancelot…
What is burning Man? I know it’s a festival of some sorts that’s done in a desert, but that’s about all I know.
What happens there?
Rich people travel 1000+ kilometres to gather around and pretend to be not rich and just like common folks! This is my understanding as someone who isn’t american.
Burning Man is a festival celebrating creative expression. No one there is pretending to not be rich
Lol this thread is so weird. I have several friends who attend. Exactly zero of them could be considered “rich.” Artsy hippie types, sure, but lmao not rich.
They read an article about some tech guy enjoying burning Man, once. Just kinda the way the site works
Lots of know-it-alls commenting on something they’ve never been to and know nothing about. Just hop on the bandwagon for internet clout.
idk people here think being rich means you need to own a yatch…
Nah people here think being part of the lower-middle class makes you rich.
Yeah a lot of them stopped pretending.
Also drugs. Lots of drugs.
My mother in law took us a few times and the most we did was pot. Also I was unemployed both times as I was laid off and got a cheap ticket. The original burners still go and they’re definitely not rich.
Also sex. dusty, dusty sex
Call me Boba Fett because I’m about to enter your sarlacc pit.
That’s what it is today. Use to be more underground and subversive, even if it took money to be involved.
Id say for the past ten years, it’s been a rich person’s fantasy of poor hippy lifestyle
It’s trying to recreate the glorified vision of Woodstock but with more drugs and more money
Except, it’s not really about a lifestyle because nobody’s lifestyle involves living permanently or even semi-permanently in a dry lake bed. A hippy lifestyle might be living on a self-sufficient communally managed farm, or something. But, strip it down to its core and burning man still involves people traveling in from elsewhere, depending on limited supplies they brought in from elsewhere to spend a week in a place they couldn’t possibly live.
So, maybe it’s a temporary art exhibit in the middle of nowhere so people can feel more free to express ideas and perform activities that they can’t in their boring 9-5 lifestyles. Which is fine, I guess… but it only makes it seem even more like cosplay. If you really want to live that way, then be that person the rest of the year. Don’t be yourself for a week and then hide your true self the other 51 weeks of the year.
Burning Man was an amazing event when I stumbled across it on the internet in the late 90’s. I must have been 14 or 15, it used to be a real “go experience, experiment and find yourself” setting. It’s since gone the way of SXSW. It totally goes against what it was intended for.
My favorite part is that you can be naked everywhere
Not true. Only in certain parts. There are family friendly areas.
Weird. When I was there people were naked everywhere. And Im European, so “family friendly areas” allow nudity too. Nudity is different than having sex.
Watch Malcolm In The Middle, season 7 episode 1 “Burning Man”. It’ll give you a fair approximation.
Love that episode, my personal highlight, cracks me up every time.
Good stuff. Thanks
That winnebago has seen some shit.
I think they set somebody on fire every year.
They have a lottery every year for it, it’s part of the thrill. Party likes it’s your last day on earth, because it might be.
Based as all hell
It started as a bunch of hippies in California decided to travel to the desert and do a week long festival (party) that was for expressing art, living care free, and being self-reliant. You brought everything with you when you came, and you took everything out when you left, leave nothing behind. Over time it has grown bigger and bigger, there are other smaller instances all over the country. The smaller ones still have a lot of the original vibe. The main one still has it, but now a lot of tourists go just to party, do drugs, and have sex. Yes, a lot of the artists have a lot of money, people talking about rich people, it was never about money or not having it. It was about living carefree.
I like the bring everything with you and leave nothing behind sentiment.
I’ve heard the recent ones leave a lot of trash.
I’ve heard the recent ones leave a lot of trash.
Which is cleaned up by the organizers, so, as a whole the organization doesn’t leave trash behind. But, a lot of individual people do. But, in a group of tens of thousands of people, you’re always going to get some assholes. There are probably plenty of people who not only make sure to clean up their own stuff, but also clean up other people’s trash too.
I dunno though, the whole thing seems so fake to me. Like “radical self reliance” is merely bringing your own supplies in and then bringing your trash out? That’s called “camping” in a lot of the world.
Plus, there’s the absurdity of a private airstrip for the ultra-wealthy burning man people, the massive environmental cost of everybody driving in and driving out, the idea of “radical self reliance” but also porta-potties.
“lets go and play being poor for a while” said no poor person ever.
I don’t know about “play being poor”. It sounds like it’s more “do lots of drugs without getting arrested or without dealing with the disapproval of people around me”, or “(try to) have sex with strangers” or “indulge in sexual kinks that I don’t want to admit to having with people in the real world” or “pretend I’m a different person for a week so that my shitty reputation doesn’t always make everyone I meet hate me”.
Sure, for a few days it might also involve living in a tent or living in an RV instead of living in a mansion, but that’s hardly living like a poor person. It’s living like a middle class person on a camping trip.
It’s living like a middle class person
i guess thats where we differ. thats a rich person. since middle class is not a thing.
Ok… so it’s a “rich person” who makes under $100k but can afford to go camping.
I’ve been to burning man, but even I can’t help but laugh a little bit at this… you wanted “radical self-reliance”? You got it.
But they didn’t really want radical self reliance. They wanted the Medieval Times version of radical self reliance.
How do they find a man who is willing to be burned?
It’s one guy every year. His name is Manuel Asada.
I read somewhere that a guy called Luan Mojado jumped in for him this year. Manuel had the colds.
I thought that Guy Feuer was taking it this year. Sorry to hear about Manny though…
First you get a virgin police officer to visit an island run by Christopher Lee.
Is that the one with the bees?
Thankfully no.
The biggest celebration of capitalism I’ve ever seen.😒
Clearly you’ve never been to a shareholders meeting.
This looks like a pithy truism but it really just sounds idiotic. You ever been to, like, a trade show?
Burning man is far from perfect but it’s a step in the right direction.
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Yes absolutely, because it’s radically inclusive so anyone can come. I’m also nor a fan of the rich paying people to set up their camp, flying in for two days, and dumping tons of trash on the road back to Reno… But everything good about the festival is still there also.
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In this provocative piece, a wealthy white guy reads a Slate article and goes on a rant about how fellow wealthy white men ruin everything.
Performance art is truly the heart of Burning Man.
Smokin them meats, meats like a brisket
You really start to wonder if the Lemmy Communists who make this comment in every thread realize that they sound like children.
It’s Saturday, only losers leave before the man burns (Saturday night). If this keeps up through late Sunday then it might start to be a problem. If anything this will keep out straggling weekenders.
The weather-related disruptions have caused suspension of the cleaning and emptying of thousands of portable toilets. Event organizers have said more rain was expected through Sunday before the festivals ends on Monday.
Uh…
The man won’t burn. It is way to wet. It’s now “wet man festival”.
A quite apt metaphor of Man drowning in problems that can’t just be burned away.
LOL, bunch of boomer types spending stupid money to be stuck in the mud. There’s got to be a parable there.
There area lot of dumb comments in this thread, but you win for that.
I was winning until you showed up.
More Gen than boomer
There aren’t many Boomers in BM. I think most of them are Gen X or Gen Y.
Yeah, that’s why I said boomer-types.
As a millennial I take offense.
Who would think an old lake bed in the middle of a flash flood prone desert might be an issue
Kind of ironic considering the climate protests on the way in.
How is that ironic?
A festival shooing away protestors protesting climate change and then that festival experiencing an extreme weather event because of climate change
Ah, gotcha. I missed the story. Still not strictly ironic, but I get what you meant now.
Is there a word for it? When I posted it I was hoping someone might correct me :)
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It just happened and was in the news so shouldn’t be hard to find if you have the nagging curiousities
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Not at all. That’s how it works. More climate change, more random weather events. Or if you like things simple “it rained because of climate change”.
Burning Mud.
Mudding Man
Everybody there is now suddenly a Primitive Technology fan
Extinguished man
Now its Muddy Man Festival
All I can picture is hundreds of artists designing some of the weirdest and coolest escape vehicles we have ever seen. I hope everyone is safe and not stuck for too long, but the creative ingenuity has got to be next-level with that crowd.
Just like this years Wacken.
that’s whack
