According to Google Trends, during the past few years, there has been nothing but a few minor bumps that faded away as quickly as they came. I love RSS because i do not have to scroll through dozens of different news sites all day and i would love it to return.
EDIT: Typical case of people only reading the headline. I was asking why people are hyped over something that did NOT happen.
Because then they can avoid social media again by building their own catalog of interest.
For me, the value of RSS is bypassing the fucking algorithm.
Just give me the raw feed from the websites I like. No suggestions, no “someone else liked this.” Just the raw firehose of content that I asked for.
I do kinda like the idea of some kind of curation, but I’d like the algorithm to be transparent to me, so that I can go in and see what’s been filtered out, for instance, and why.
Some guy on Mastodon a while back was working on a service that’d give him a digest of daily posts he’d missed from his feed. I could see the value in something like that, as long as you control the algorithm yourself.
I think I’m still stuck on the idea of a daily edition. A finite selection of post or articles and maybe a funny pages section too. Like a newspaper in the olden days.
There’s still an algorithm and “like” system in that scenario: clicks. The news providers generate more content based on what was clicked most.
Some sites are more objective in what they report on, but there’s still going to be biases in what you’re fed.
In that regard, I’m not sure how different subscribing to certain communities is from subscribing to certain news outlets.
Clickbait is obviously an issue with many media outlets but given that you curate your RSS feeds you can just dump them. Once reddit died I made plenty of changes to my media diet. It left me with way less sources but I’m certain all I lost was low quality reporting and other kinds of outrage bait.
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You can also use it to create your own “algorithm”.
With Reddit I’ve always subscribed to each subreddit individually, sometimes adding filters like “/hot/?limit=10”, which only shows posts that reach the Top 10 posts in /hot. That way I wouldn’t miss any post in niche subs while being able to individually scale the amount of posts I get shown from the bigger subs.
You can do the same here on Lemmy, although I still haven’t felt the need to configure it, since staying on top of /new is still doable.
Individual/custom feeds would be awesome here. If I remember correctly from github, they are coming.
I mean algorithms have their flaws but there is a reason they became popular.
Subscribe to a dozen RSS feeds and suddenly you have more content then you can read with no easy way to sort through the chuff. Also no easy way to discover content beyond your feeds.
The way I like it. The showRSS feed is beautiful after using Google Home feed for so long. I’ll never go back to ads and Google trying to sell me pixel products and reviews every day
The only algorithm I want is the classic “Sort by Magic.”
What’s that?
The reason why RSS didn’t become popular was because content creators didn’t know how to monetize them while still having to pay for hosting fees.
Social media built walled gardens that could drive traffic to certain content creators if it was in the social media company’s best interest. Content creators moved to social media since the carrot was too much to resist.
Wasn’t that how YouTube used to work tho? Still I think it’s better discovering new channels, but that makes it harder for the new users I suppose
Funny you need YouTube. I have been rediscovering the “Subscriptions” tab recently. It’s a chronological view (newest first) of all Channels I am subscribed to, but I actually haven’t used it for years.
I’ve gotten used to the YouTube algorithm, going to the homepage and just finding whatever seemingly interesting videos YouTube suggests to me. However recently, YouTube made the strange decision to disable the homepage for people who disable Watch History. Now my YouTube homepage is entirely empty.
Anyway, going to the subscription tab it’s just a massive collection of random channels I’ve subscribed to over the years. It’s too messy to keep my interest, and I’ve actually been using YouTube less.
Same here, I have removed the home page (using ReVanced) so it automatically loads my subscriptions, as I found those has far better videos than my home feed at all. Homepage has really died, I keep getting the same videos I already watched, some obscure 39 views video keep annoying me and because I use YouTube music I also get recommended music, except they have like 100 views. It’s just so terrible.
I think YouTube has been disabling the homepage, so you are more intrigued to enable it. But it really just makes your and my lives easier. Either way it’s the only way to really enjoy the videos nowadays. Hopefully another platform comes along, but that hasn’t happened at all in over 20 years
This is the reason why for me, I actually took it one step further and rebuilt a front end news site with Django and shared the link out with friends who are interested in the same topics, added a discussion feature. Essentially, I have a python script that runs and pulls RSS feed data. If the whole article isn’t included then it uses Asyncio, aiohttp, and Beautifulsoup to pull in the article. Dump all that to a Postgres instance then have Django run on top of it. It’s like deconstructing news to reconstruct it
Would you mind sharing this? I would be very interested in running my own instance of this and modifying it to fit my needs!
also check out miniflux
Newsblur also does something similar and is self-hostable.
That sounds awesome! Any chance you’d be willing to share your code?
Right after Reddit melted I dusted off feed the and updated all my RSS feeds.
If you have any great RSS feeds to share, post them here.
You can copy the URL directly from each item in this list and easily add to your favorite reader.
There are other lists as well for US news, etc.
feedspot - top 100 world news feeds
For iOS users: NetNewsWire is a good, free app
Here is my problem with that list: it is almost entirely general news feeds. If you subscribe the the first 20 you are going to see the same story 20 times. I’m looking for niche information that is curated. Slashdot, Science Based Medicine, Nature, Factcheck, Neurologica, that kind of stuff where it’s not the same stories covered by everyone else.
I had never used it until the Reddit event. Then I looked up what RSS was and realized that that’s how I was using Reddit, so might as well just do it that way. It’s so much better.
What are you interested in? I have lots of feeds haha
What is Reddit if not a glorified collection of RSS feeds with comments?
If you used Reddit sorted as “new” exclusively, it would essentially be a collection of RSS feeds. But, what most people sort by “popular” or “hot” or “top” or something. Chronological sorting vs. algorithmic sorting is an absolutely key difference for RSS vs. other social feeds.
One of my co-workers solely interacts with Reddit through RSS feeds, and has done that for years.
RSS is quasi-archival, so it can give you a listing of new content sorted chronologically with no other input. Even reddit’s
/new
feed cannot guarantee this.
I love RSS, but having comments and a sorting algorithm makes a world of difference
i have lemmy for that. My rss feeds are extremely curated and very specific to want i know i want to read about,
What is Reddit if not a glorified collection of RSS feeds with comments?
I went from Google Reader to Reddit. It scratched very much the same itch. I remember having quite the curated list of RSS feeds subscribed to. Still pissed that Google killed it.
I took the same path, probably the first time google broke my heart.
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And not the last, I’m sure 😆
It was gpm for me…
We really just need a Reader replacement. I’m sure there is something out there I don’t know about.
If not, perhaps I’ll make one and become a billionaire on the RSS bandwagon!
Was about to say lol. Right in those last days/weeks of Google Reader, Feedly loudly stepped up and offered to help people import their data over and continue on right in the nick of time. I’d assume the majority of people who had been on Reader, who didn’t quit using feeds entirely, probably migrated to Feedly the day Reader shut down.
Inoreader perhaps?
Inoreader has been my go to, or The Old Reader which is closer to Google Readers style.
Is Feedly still a thing and okay? I remember it being the stopgap between Google Reader and Reddit, however I’m not sure where it lies on the “free version is good enough” vs “completely gimped free version and the real product is the paid one”
I’m using the free version and not missing the paid features!
I’ve been using Flym since they killed Reader.
I used Feedly for many years, but recently switched to Newsblur, and I love that it lets me filter out posts by tags or keywords, finally don’t have to use external tools for it.
Newsblur
Trying this out now. It’s awesome. Might have found a new doomscrolling default…
inoreader is excellent
Handy News Reader (F-droid).
First time trying RSS, giving it a shot. Thanks!
Good luck, it’s kind of feature-rich so if you have any questions, feel free to ask. The dev is quite responsive (on Github) which is good.
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Its arguably also how content is “curated” which, at some point, is helpful for different uses. Nothing is pure asset or liabillity, it depends on implementation and audience.
and the weighing is the entire problem.
It’s also the fundamental value prop.
The comments are why most people go there. It’s the major differentiator from other social media platforms. Holding a conversation on Reddit is much clearer than any other site. If YouTube has comments like reddit it would be a very interesting change to a lot of content that goes on Reddit at the moment.
My immediate thought about Reddit. Sure I discover some things there but what I really enjoy is seeing people’s reaction and genuine discussion (the quality of which is much better on Lemmy).
I’d love to use RSS but it feels rather lonely by comparison.
Lemmy + RSS is the way to go to get the best of both worlds then.
I view it just as much through the lense of entertainment as I do an essential check on disinformation both in the framing used by the actual post as well as clearing through bots and other dirty tricks/bullshit in the comments.
The one thing I will commend Twitter on is its introduction of “Context”. It can be shocking how misleading or disingenuous headlines can be when you give them even an inch sometimes
Among other problems, in youtube posters can delete comments, so when someone calls bullshit the poster can just delete, here that power is limited to moderators but you can still check deleted comments. Another thing is that thumbs down isnt visible, another useful information taken away. Comments are not structured in trees, and the list continues…
The big platforms have gotten a lot worse.
Twitter went fascist.
Canadians can’t share news articles on Facebook.
Reddit self-owned.Canadians can blame their government for that
Well yes. When a monetary charge is imposed for doing some action, people may simply choose not to do that action anymore. Since the action was “as a big web site, publishing user-submitted links to news sites”, that’s what Facebook chose to stop doing.
Blame? Fuck Facebook, the less relevant it is the better.
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@jabberati @duviobaz they will resist for sure.
@jabberati @duviobaz Ill second that. Blame Google.
That would be great. Having to install Signal, Discord and WhatsApp is bad enough because of all the groups! Maybe it is time to create a new app that pulls in data from all other apps by their API.
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You are right, I was only ~10% serious.
I miss RSS.
I would like the majority to keep using the ad infested web so I can use RSS and Lemmy.
If everyone used RSS, companies would quickly complain that they don’t make money on their shitty web sites.
i would love it to return.
RSS never died though, I have at least 50 web sites that I follow.
Damn straight. Feedbin for me.
It has gotten less useful over time as content went elsewhere, but also I’ve been lazy about moving Substack feeds over.
I think they mean get popular again, see more robust support and integration, etc.
What do you use as your reader?
Tiny Tiny RSS has been great for me. Popped it on a VPS and it’s been running for years now trouble.
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you can use it to subscribe to youtube, odysee, peertube, podcasts, without an account. i use feedbro to get the youtube rss easy but lately i use freetube.
Ars Technica, BBC and Reuters are big enough that you may find a channel of your liking, that was my starting point.
What are your interests?
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The OPML I have on my phone is not as complete as the one on my PC, let me get back at you when I can and I’ll share some feeds for tech, Linux and FOSS.
I use a RSS reader for my daily news across multiple sites and I don’t know what to do if sites stop supporting it.
Take a look at RSS-Bridge and RSSHub. They provide feeds for many websites that don’t provide their own RSS feed.
Who the fuck Google searches for “RSS”?
People who are looking for a good RSS client for their phone?
People hoping that it would give a web page/post with a curated list of RSS URLs.
You wouldn’t include any terminology to narrow your search down? Just “RSS” seems overly broad, yeah?
please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that this graph included any search with RSS in your search query. Otherwise it works be useless as people rarely search for something with just a single word.
Dyslectics trying to do their taxes?
I’ve done it.
the subset of those who do not use a proper search engine who want to know what a RSS is.
Beyond that, though, who the fuck would use Google’s search popularity as a metric for the popularity of a technology. Those who use it aren’t searching for it all the time. OP is dumb.
who the fuck would use Google’s search popularity as a metric for the popularity of a technology
that’s been a leading indicator of popularity for a long time now.
Search popularity is something like the first derivation (read: change in) popularity of a technology.
Calling people dumb is ableist.
Is there an alternative to saying somebody or something is dumb? Or that a choice was dumb? Genuinely asking. It just seems like it’s all ableist all the way down at that point, but I’ve not heard of dumb being called ableist before so am interested if there’s a better alternative? Short-sighted? Uninformed?
I feel like, at least in this context, it’s unnecessary.
If your in a submarine and OP tries to open the external hatch while submerged, sure call him dumb. If op leaves your baby in a scorpion pit because he thought it’d make the child gain super powers, dumb.
If, however, OP thinks that Google is a valid metric to gage how popular something is. “I disagree with using this as a valid metric and here’s the reasons why.”
No need to call him dumb. This post didn’t hurt or impact you personally. It’s just the original guy who called him dumb really doesn’t like google. Which is fine. Not gonna call him dumb for using duck duck go.
I agree, I don’t think using Google as an indicator of trends is wrong. I was just asking about why it is ableist is all :)
I still use Feedly daily!
Inoreader for me
Couldn’t live without RSS, they’re literally my #1 source of info/news/updates.
It’s a no fuss that works so well, I don’t understand why anyone would prefer a Google feed or any other social media feed to get their updates.
I’m in full control of the sources, no shady content pushed to me from other sources just for ad revenues.
I just couldn’t get into RSS feeds back when it was growing in its popularity. No chance I’ll understand using it any better now lol. I am a fool of a took.
It’s just not an interesting way of browsing the internet. RSS treats everything to be of equal worth and it isn’t.
If you can glance over 100 posts in 10 seconds that is of little importance. The issue is that nobody enabled good ways to do so. Also people should rather devote their times to priority purposes such as editing Wikipedia or developing open source software that is not some niche repo but e.g. MediaWiki or Lutris.
There’s no way you are in a decentralized aggregator site but don’t get RSS.
You can always end up somewhere, even if you fall ass backwards into it. While I understand what RSS is, what I fail to understand is how people find it useful. I never understood using RSS to see 2 lines of a headline article that I’m going to go to the website for anyways. So it just never fit my workflow. Hopefully that makes it make a bit more sense.
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Some of us are “hyped” about it because when RSS fell out of favor we lost some of the RSS feeds we were using. This forced some of us to go looking for alternatives because the sites that had RSS feeds and dropped them were no longer accessible that way. And given that we see less ads and have to deal with less algorithms this way, we enjoy using RSS. If it becomes relevant enough again maybe those sources that were lost will come back. To be fair that’s probably a pipe dream. But ease of use, and use case are definitely some of the reasons.
Maybe sort of off topic, but it seems like activity pub could provide the same functionality (and maybe more) as RSS.
If a news site or anything else that posts stuff periodically supported the activitypub protocol, anyone could subscribe to it, just like rss. Then when anything is posted you’d see it in your feed.
With activitypub (and not rss) you could comment on it and see other peoples comments, and crosspost it elsewhere.
There’s people already using it like that: off the top of my head, Nick from the linux experiment posts his videos and podcasts via @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social