• shplane@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Funny how many posts I see of this guy being an utter cesspool but when I go on conservative media, I see literally ZERO examples of him saying anything they feel is worth praising. It’s almost as if everything out of his mouth was vitriolic garbage and they know it.

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      22 days ago

      No. He does not deserve to be mourned but that does not mean he deserved to be murdered.

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      21 days ago

      Hey man, no need for such a full throated criticism of the departed…

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        22 days ago

        It was less of a murder and more of a lesson on the 2nd Amendment in my opinion. But basically yes, if by “asshole” you mean being a hateful fucking nazi.

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        21 days ago

        He was a weasely misanthropic little shit who gleefully poisoned the discourse in the name of theocratic white supremacy and helped usher in an administration that’s done nothing but hurt it’s constituents and alienate us from the global community.

        Simply calling him an asshole undersells how vile of a person he was and the incredible damage he has caused.

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          20 days ago

          That may be the case but whatever theocratic white-supremacist trump-supporter he was, I think advocating for the murder of a person because he advocated for the murder of a person (or at least implied that) doesn’t make one any better than him, if that makes sense.

          People are talking about him having spread hatred (which he did) and are at the very same time spreading hatred about him. Quite ironic in a way…

          • kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            19 days ago

            Enlightened centrist horse shit.

            “Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.” - Karl Popper

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              19 days ago

              “I do not imply that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion”. - Karl Popper, clarifying that statement you cited

              One shouldn’t kill a communist that is simply voicing their opinion, one should however kill a second Stalin.

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          22 days ago

          I mean, it’s more about letting anyone have a gun. Your shooters are always mentally unwell, or actual children.

          • Wilco@lemmy.zip
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            21 days ago

            You should argue gun control with Kirk, the sign said to prove him wrong.

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          21 days ago

          These MAGA scum are a direct threat to the US constitution. They are so weak willed that they follow people like this and actually enjoy being manipulated by them. The person that killed the asshole wasn’t even one of “us”, he was another MAGA that was mad because he thought this asshole wasn’t being a big enough threat to the Constitution.

          MAGA is so hateful and crazy that they are killing themselves.

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            21 days ago

            MAGA is a death cult in every meaning of the term, so much so that my perception of the vast diversity of different meanings of “death cult” keeps expanding quite against my desire to explore further expressions of it.

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            20 days ago

            The issue is that if you think it’s justified to kill people on the basis of views that you (radically) disagree with, then that same justification could be used by them to justify killing you, right?

            (Also, I think calling him a nazi doesn’t do the victims of actual nazis justice, the latter of whom certainly did more than verbally expressing a radical ideology; but this just on the side)

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              Dude was overtly racist, called for violence against ethnic groups, supported a literal genocide, among other things. He was doing the same shit the Nazis did in the beginning.

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    22 days ago

    Posting screenshots of his tweets is disrespectful to his memory.

    /s

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      22 days ago

      Likewise, but unfortunately I’m pretty sure based on the video that the sudden overpressure, then pressure loss, of blood, caused him to immediately black out and probably have no conscious experience after blaming gun violence on trans people and gangs.

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        as someone who has experienced sudden loss of blood pressure to the brain, you go grey then black very quickly. i was pumping my thighs to keep going (because i knew what was happening) and got an extra ten seconds of grey, don’t remember anything after that. so… maybe he did?

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          21 days ago

          Except that I would greatly prefer that he were acutely aware of what happened, why, and who was responsible. If only he had lived until Saturday-ish

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    22 days ago

    I’ve got nothing to say about the other guy, I’m just going to celebrate that Zelenskyy and Ukraine are still going strong!

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    22 days ago

    sure, and FDR was responsible for millions of deaths too by entering ww2. If only he had rolled over for the Japanese and Nazis the world would have been a better place amirighf? /s

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    22 days ago

    Holy fuck.

    *Also, he doesn’t know the difference between dead and casualty. Casualty is anyone dead or injured such that they can’t fight. Militaries report casualties because they want numbers of those that can/can’t fight.

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    21 days ago

    This was on the aftermath of Zelenski visiting the US and they started arguing in front of the cameras. JD Vance accused Zelenski of not being grateful and of “haven’t saying thanks once”. Rubio couldn’t sink deeper into the couch and background.

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      22 days ago

      Given that Kirk got got by an even farther to the right Groyper, you have to start questioning the Two Sides narrative.

      Almost as though politics is a spectrum - a fabric, even - and one’s relative distance to one’s peers can have little to do with one’s desire to ventilate your peer’s breathing tubes.

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        22 days ago

        Yeah I was just reacting to hearing someone say that recently. That “both sides” are doing it. When is predominately 1 side doing it. I’m not sure I even know of someone on the “left” that says things like he was saying. I could be wrong and willing to admit it if someone could produce said person. Either way it’s coming mostly from the “right”. And thanks for the good analogy of it being a spectrum or fabric.

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          I’m not sure I even know of someone on the “left” that says things like he was saying.

          Sort of the heart of the respective ideologies. Leftists are inclined towards egalitarianism and comradre, with the view that a handful of selfish people are hording wealth to the immiseration of all. Reactionaries are inclined towards eugenics and the theory that a favored few deserve it all, with the view that “culling the herd” of undesirables is important and necessary work for a society to perform.

          You’d like to think that a leftist would have been the one to end Kirk’s career abruptly. But the idea of a militant left is so tied up with the idea of Evil Foreigner “Tankies” (and to a lesser degree, the clumsy disastrous youth movements of the 90s/00s) that its totally alien to anyone in any active organizing roll.

          Meanwhile, armed reactionaries looking for someone to assassinate are a dime a dozen.