• LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    I never said Israeli citizens were the Israeli state. The Israeli state is in fact a state. That state has legal power over all Palestinians. That state is denying Palestinians human rights. That state is orchestrating an attempt at genocide.

    • player1@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      If Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians why is the population of Palestinians growing exponentially?

      • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 year ago

        Do you not understand how genocide works? They literally cut off all food water and electricity to the entire gaza ghetto like 3 days ago. They are about to launch the largest land invasion in the history of the state of Israel. They called Palestinians “human animals” on international TV. Theyve murdered men women and children indiscriminately in both gaza and the west bank. They’ve been emboldening racist Israeli citizens to launch attacks of their own on Palestinian citizens in the west bank.

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      1 year ago

      Your points would be a lot more reasonable if you acknowledged that Hamas is not a reasonable choice for resistance. It’s entrenched in a long history of desire to exterminate all Jews since long before the Ottoman empire collapsed.

      Hamas has a 53% approval rating today (at least prior to their attack). They do not want just their freedom they want to exterminate all Jews for that freedom. In their view they are not free until they do.

      In much the same way that white nationalism creates a persistent undercurrent of systemic racism in many more free-ish countries that would rather not acknowledge it so too do these backward beliefs here.

      This outlook informs their actions that never have and never will do any good for the Palestinian people.

      In a few generations the cultures in this region have had to adapt from a situation where Jews are the oppressed minority to a Jewish-majority state with the power to oppress.

      None of this is to excuse the actions of Israel and the religious conservatism that perpetuates this same violence and genocide on the Israeli side. However none of this is easily massageable into the western concept of oppressor and oppressed.