This should help us cut down on the trolls. We recommend other instances do the same, because they will likely be targeted also.
I apologize for all their gore-posts as well, no one should have to see that. We’ll try to look for more admins from different time-zones as well to get them faster.
The two other possibilities we have currently as options, are turning on required email verification, and as a last resort, closing signups. I personally would rather not do either, but they are options.
Many thanks to @k_o_t@lemmy.ml and @AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml for banning those trolls.
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Invite only instances would be also nice for self-hosting.
Not opposed as long as someone else codes it lol. I’m a bit swamped.
Fantastic idea! I actually never thought about this.
Perhaps to avoid this type of user, a pre-school intelligence test would suffice.
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I’m not talking about trolls, I’m talking about Nazis and these guys with fixed ideas, by definition, are never luminaries, less if they are simple guys and not rich people, the latter almost always only sympathize with fascism, because it is the political orientation that most favors the savage capitalism that favors them.
For the rest, the waving flags with the svastica tattooed can be seen as follows
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Agree with this, naturally requires vigilance. But these, trolls, spamers and similar fauna, cannot be avoided by adding an email to the registry. Spammers can perhaps be avoided by simply waiting an hour before sending the registration confirmation, since spammers often use temporary emails that expire earlier.
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Reddit and anonymity? 🤣 Reddit even pass user data to Facebook and worse, TowerData, the last even uses keylogger.
https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=reddit.com
Data to
https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=Neustar.com
and
https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=TowerData.com
This mean, all big tech nows the data from reddit users
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Thank you for all the work you do!
No probs!
I downvoted and reported as many posts as I can, I don’t know how much that helped but it was good to check back a couple hours later and see that the trolls’ posts had been removed
Thank you for doing this o7
Also,it would be nice to have some sort of moderation/ban federation to avoid having to do the work on each instance.
I’m sure it’s easier said than done but would be very beneficial to the project and community.
I second this. If someone/something is banned and removed from an instance it shouldn’t still be visible on a linked instance. If this isn’t already a pending feature request I’ll happily make one for it.
I think there is an open issue for federating bans. Once @nutomic@lemmy.ml gets some time he said it wouldn’t be too difficult.
The brigading is really unfortunate and thanks to the admins for doing all the work to contain it. As Lemmy grows in usage requiring email verification may be unavoidable, but hopefully having a registration application will do the trick in the immediate term. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later, so at least this is a useful test case for how such brigading and spam can be addressed going forward.
No worries. I have seen surprisingly few of these types of posts, so you’re currently doing something better then other alternatives and I appreciate your efforts to make things even better.
Doing registration form with manual approval is a good first step. My 2 cents is you could also implementing an invite based registration where users are allowed to invite their trusted friends.
Similar to how reputable private trackers works. There is form registration, interview, or invite from existing members. If existing member invites too many leechers, the current member will get a warning and ban eventually. This system is mostly working for private trackers so far.
Are the invite systems usually e-mail based? If so, it would be cool to be able to generate 1-time use codes to invite friends, so that providing an e-mail is not required.
Absolutely, have a code based invitation would be more privacy focused.
After upgrading to 0.15.1, I activated the signup form. I haven’t had to deal with the daily trolls. Not ideal but it helps.
Thanks a lot! I have implemented this in my instance too. This past week I was also saw several accounts being created to post ads.
Admins could also tweak
register_per_secondandregisterparamsYou do not need to apologize for actions of others, you did your best and you found a solution for this issue which is what at the end counts.
Lemmy does lots of more work than most other platforms I know, admins and mods are often very fast and helpful + resourceful.
My idea was to introduce some sort of reputation based system but the problem is, that bots maybe could abuse the system to upvote themselves to get some sort of credit or reputation, call it what you want. Most boards use captchas and eMail verification systems to workaround this. Maybe an option would be to enable captchas for users who have below x posts as a middle ground, lets say 1 captcha per new submission until you have 5 posts in total.
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After thinking about it, another system without reputation or captchas or emails would be to hold back posts until someone has 5 posts and let the Mods, Admin approve it first.
Reputation would just turn this into Reddit, where you can’t do anything or interact unless you use a single account or post what Reddit would like you to post.
The Lemmy devs have already decided that karma is just a bottomless pit that just harms users mental health, so it’s highly doubtful we’d ever have a reputation system be introduced, as that’s literally the same thing.
Also, captchas can be preventative to people with certain disabilities, so introducing them (I believe it would be reintroducing, actually) would contradict Lemmy’s disability-inclusive culture. As well, email verification wouldn’t work for people who would prefer anonymity. And nefarious users could just use a spoof mail account, so the introduction of required email account verification would really only harm privacy-focused real users, and do nothing to prevent trolls. Also, while on the subject and though you didn’t mention it, we don’t ban IPs because some VPNs reuse them for multiple people. So banning the IP of a troll might also cause the ban of real users.
These are my thoughts on email too. Using throwaways is so easy for trolls, and legitimate users now have a privacy concern since a lot of the “legitimate” email services are really invasive.
Thanks for this. I’d stick to the It’s FOSS channels if I wanted to see loads of fascist crap 🤣 Love being on Lemmy!
Unless you can get everyone else on your shared instance list to do the same this is pointless. Look I just made this user on another instance that required email verification. I used a temp email service and am able to post what ever I want here.
You should instead have a period the user has to wait before posting so that you can have a night sleep without worrying about trolls flooding your site.
All of the accounts that were posting in the event were two days old. Having a wait time doesn’t help there.
No, thats not true. They were mostly freshly created and spamming within a few minutes.
As the other person said they were clearly not two days old. I don’t think trolls care to wait that long.
So wait? Does this effectively make lemmy more private of a forum then?
Its optional, and yes it can.
