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    “Experts project that homosexual marriage is the dark harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy that could doom even the strongest republic.”

    “project” is right!

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      “Gays are stronger than the strongest republic!”

      Sounds like the Sacred Band of Thebes had the right idea. We can only maintain our liberty by embracing the strength of the gays!

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        Well our they/them missiles and tanks sure are beating the crap out of the “manly” Russian military.

        NATO = Sacred Band confirmed??

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          I’m straight and Jewish, but now I’m wondering how powerful a gay Jew would be. I hear their space lasers are FABULOUS!

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        They defeated even the Spartans, who were so manly that they got their wife to shave her head and banged her in the dark the first time they met because all they had seen until then were sweaty, muscular dudes. Clearly the gayer a polity, the stronger it is.

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      Chaos? Sexual anarchy? I don’t even know what that second one looks like, but sign me up

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      doom even the strongest republic

      Translation: If people we don’t like are allowed to have nice things, we’ll throw a temper tantrum and burn the house down.

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    He’s a fucking christofascist. He doesn’t think gay sex should just be illegal, he thinks anyone who is queer should be killed because they are sinning against God. Even if he hasn’t openly called for that, a key tenant of his faith is that. He’s a terrible person who has just gone a bit under the radar so the Republicans could shove him through quickly.

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    Seems to be a lot of projection here, as usual. I give him two months before he’s outed as a boner smoking drag queenTM

    Edit: Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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      I get what you’re saying, just be a little careful with this idea. As a gay person it’s somewhat disheartening to see everytime some ass hole homophobe is trying to opress us people go “oh he must be gay, lol.” It can come across as using gay as an insult which I think your edit acknowledges. Not that internally repressed homophobes who take it out on others aren’t sometimes a thing of course, but just remember the vast majority of people opressing, abusing, and hurting the lgbtq community are straight people, it’s not just gay people taking it out on themselves. There aren’t nearly enough gay people in existence for that to be even remotely true.

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        As a gay person, myself, I never saw comments like this as using gay as an insult because what’s being called out here is the hypocrisy, not whether or not they’re gay. Intelligent people will realize that, and the dumb bigots are going to be dumb bigots regardless.

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          No I didn’t think the commenter meant gay as an insult to be clear, just that if not carefully phrased it may come off that way. I know the hypocrisy is the main pont. I think that makes sense if it’s like, a story about someone being caught with a rent boy or something sure. In this case though I didn’t see anything in this story to provide any evidence that this person is anything but straight.

          I’ve just noticed this tendency that for any anti gay politician, the comments will immediately fill up with tons of people insinuating well that politician must be gay then. It starts to feel like it’s a insinuation that all homophobia is just gay people doing it to themselves or something. Or like makes homophobia into a “gay problem” that straight people have nothing to do with. Which obviously isn’t the case.

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            I know it seems like a stereotype, but it does happen not infrequently that gay-hating GOP politicians get outed in embarrassing ways as massive hypocrites, and not even always as gays. Hypocrisy is a major cornerstone of the GOP.

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        I hear you and agree. Not all loud, dramatic anti-gay people are actually saying, “Hey! Look what I’m not! At all! Not even that one time in college!” - but it sure seems to pan out that way with politicians.

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        Yeah, there is a reason we find out about these things through leaks and such: Gay republicans have to hide themselves or else face the bigotry that exists within their colleagues/constituents.

        Still dumb fuck hypocrites though.

        “Use my marginalization to oppress me, at least I pay $3.75 less in taxes.”

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          I remember a story I once heard from a trans woman who’d been working as a prostitute back in the 80s. She had a virulently homophobic politician for a regular client and once asked him why a man who routinely paid to suck a woman’s dick would do that. Apparently the way he saw it was that the constituents wanted it, and if he wouldn’t do it they’d find someone else who would.

          I think about that sometimes. What absolute moral cowardice. I hope I’m never as weak as him to live a lie purely for the power to do what I don’t want. And I get angry that at the end of that story she was the one worse off.

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            Man, I have tried SO HARD to get people to realize that just because politicians say something, doesn’t mean they believe it.

            They are APPEALING TO YOU, not expressing their own held beliefs. Sometimes it overlaps, sometimes it doesn’t.

            My dad is a perfect example: he doesn’t necessarily agree with abortion due to his beliefs, but he will ALWAYS support the right to choose.

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              Exactly! And you can see sometimes when a politician is uncomfortable with something but supports it anyways. Whether it’s Ted Cruz simping for the man who publicly called his wife ugly or Hillary Clinton clearly not getting modern social issues. That’s why people make politicians say certain things, it makes it clear what they’re expected to do.

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        It’s just happened so many times. All these evangelical preachers who are filled with hate based rhetoric especially when it comes to homophobia in general. It seems to me they turn out to be repressed homosexuals in the end, so many times. Be gay be happy be proud.

        But these mother fuckers are homophobes. Why would you care that much about what other people are doing in their own bedrooms? He’s obviously obsessed with it and feels like his own impulses are somehow morally wrong. I can’t claim to understand the self hatred that brings someone down this path, but he is also in a position of power, and he needs to be called out on it.

        In my opinion, calling him gay is an insult only because he would consider it to be one, even though we all know there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it.

        But you’re right, I hear you and am gonna think about it some more. I hope you’re doing well out there.

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      There’s nothing wrong with being a cock gobbling slut, but there is something wrong with being a hypocritical anti lgbt Republican, while being a cock gobbling slut.

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      Certainly not.

      But for someone who’s worried gay sex can “threaten democracy” and who also believes the orange rapist’s Big Lie . . . /Nelson

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    So are we talking just dudes, and is he okay with girl-on-girl or what? You never have to dig too deep to find the hypocrisy from these fuckheads.

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    homosexual marriage is the dark harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy that could doom even the strongest republic.

    Jesus fucking christ! For a guy harping on about “traditional gender roles” (aka celebrating toxic masculinity and misogyny) he sure is a hell of a drama queen!

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    Johnson called homosexuality a “inherently unnatural” and “dangerous lifestyle” that would lead to legalized pedophilia and possibly even destroy “the entire democratic system.”

    Johnson led more than 100 Republican lawmakers in an amicus brief supporting a Texas lawsuit that sought to challenge the results of the election in states won by Biden. The brief cited concern about “unconstitutional irregularities” in the voting.

    No Mike. That is you trying to destroy democracy. Not those that you have spent decades you demonizing and harassing.

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    “Your race, creed, and sex are what you are, while homosexuality and cross-dressing are things you do”

    This is honestly all you need to know. People can pick and choose their sexual preferences, but they’re inherently born with belief in a millennia-old fantasy book.

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      Anyone who thinks it’s what one does that makes them gay is repressing some shit

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      Obviously, your religion can be changed. I have no interest in changing mine, but I could if I so desired. However, having been born as a Jewish person, there are many on the right who view me as somehow fundamentally flawed. Even if I converted to Christianity (not happening), they’d still see me as a Jew.

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        I think that’s semantics. I don’t think you were born with the sacred texts in your mind, you were just raised in a Jewish family, learned Jewish values and grew up to be one. That’s what I mean when I say you’re not “born” with your religion (not that there’s any issue with that, the issue is in Johnson’s statement).

        People on the right see Jewish people as some sort of hidden cabal so obviously if you say you converted yourself they wouldn’t believe you. It’s unfortunate but you just have to deal with the fact those people can’t be reasoned with and ignore their opinions.

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          I wish I could just ignore them. Sadly, too many of the “Jews are evil” folks are getting into positions of power and too many other people in positions of power are willing to look the other way for these people. So I need to take them and their threats seriously.

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            I get it, probably not as much as you do but I get it. We just have to vote against them and hope for the best.

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    And the Log Cabin Republicans will support him because they are the stupidest shits to exist since Jews for Hitler.

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    Meanwhile, I’m hiding inside with my kids under a shelter in place order because one of these MAGAts is roaming the woods with an AR-15.