The president’s comment that he has “no confidence” in the civilian death toll in Gaza provided by Palestinians incensed community leaders.

  • Reptorian@lemmy.zipEnglish
    926·
    1 year ago

    Maybe he can offer this after Hamas’ defeat:

    1. Support changes in Israel government to have a hard look at the Haredi group of Jewish people and illegal settlements within West Bank. I got this idea from conversing with a Israeli and he pointed to Haredis.
    2. Peacekeeping forces within West Bank and Gaza to prevent further wars and illegal settlements.
    3. Bolsters belief of cohesion with each other.

    I do think Biden is in the correct not to trust the civilian death tolls given fog of war, and the issue with Hamas as a group. That being said, he shouldn’t support the current government of Israel either.

    Also, if you’re downvoting, you need to understand that yes, I understand that there are problems within Israel, but there is no reason to support Hamas either. If you understand that, then where’s the issue here?

    • AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world
      198·
      1 year ago
      1. After 70+ years of occupation “we’ll look into it” is the best we can offer? Really?
      2. Who would these Peace keepers be? IDF? Pro-Israel US troops? Iranian military? There are no neutral forces for this job. Also, why only peace keeping to further subjugate the Palestinian people? Why no peace keeping forces to keep Israel from committing more ethnic cleansing?
      3. Huh?
      • Reptorian@lemmy.zipEnglish
        101·
        1 year ago

        Thank you for offering criticisms instead of downvoting.

        1. It’s better late than never. And looking into it still paves the way to put some people in jail.
        2. It should be outside of those you mentioned. They’ll probably consider another war without interference, so yes, there should be peacekeeping forces occupying Gaza/West Bank, and some internal checking within Israel. It’s a good question of who though. None of those you listed are good suggestions, and I do struggle to think of a neutral one. The closest I can think of is United Nation, but that’s probably not enough.
        3. One of the condition to prevent wars is acceptance of other people. So, yes, there should be support toward each other. Some of the Israelis are in support for Palestine civilians, and some Palestinians are in support of Israel civilians. More of that is needed. Much more in fact.
      • DoomBot5@lemmy.worldEnglish
        76·
        1 year ago

        Do you have a better alternative beyond “let the terrorists keep running the show and occasionally bombing Israel”?

          • Zippy@lemmy.world
            48·
            1 year ago

            Why isn’t it their land? They have legitimate claims a thousand years back but were ran off then.

            • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
              71·
              1 year ago

              By that logic the United States shouldn’t exist, either. It’s built on stolen land with legitimate claims going back tens of thousands of years.

              • Zippy@lemmy.world
                33·
                1 year ago

                Exactly. Forever and a day you have no rights to exsist except from the place where your ancestors came from a million years ago.

                You rather made my point that the Palestinians have no greater right than the Israelites. Hamas on the other hand has stated with no ambiguity that their policy is to exterminate absolutely every last Jew in the middle East.