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remember when there used to be all these articles about how people in europe live longer than americans because they drink red wine and eat more olive oil or bullshit like that? turns out it was universal healthcare the whole time

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Nope. Turns out that people who can afford to relax with a glass of red wine were just in better health due to various socioeconomic factors rather than the wine itself.

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          1 year ago

          The studies that postulated health benefits of wine weren’t either. Correlation doesn’t equal causation and the mistaken belief that wine makes you live longer is a classic example of mistaking the two.

          • adam_y@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Congratulations, you’ve taken a flippant, light-hearted, comment and turned it into a debate about the veracity of cause/correlation whilst demonstrating some wonderful contrarianism.

            Here, have a fake internet point for your trouble.

            Wine may or may not increase life expectancy, but stress and anger have been shown to have negative long term health implications. Lighten up a bit, and try not to take the internet too seriously.

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          They are located in the places with bad record keeping. Not that they’re necessarily intentionally lying, but you do tend to forget how many birthdays you’ve had, and there’s nothing else to verify it.

          Jeanne Louise Calment is probably legit. She was able to answer some very specific questions. But most others over about 105 are probably not as old as they think.

      • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
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        no, it turns out that political biases in the US are walls in the brains of either political leaning.

        Look at the studies that concluded that moderate exercise, saturated fats, and red wine were contributing factors to the longevity and you’ll see that they did account for the socieconomic status and access to the healthcare. Everything else would’ve been a really, really bad study. Which you suggest it was without ever even looking it up.

        But nevermind, maybe you could do a simple back-of-the-envelope analysis: southern/mideterranian Europe is where people live longest. Yet their GDP per Capita is like half of a representative northern countr. And their healthcare system is absolutely garbage in comparison as well. And yet they still live longer on average.

        But, no, please, I’m sorry, I’m probably fascist for saying that, I probably vote for Trump and whatever other explanation your brain can find to not realize you’re wrong.

        – Eurobro. (but absolutely would vote for Trump, he’d make Europe great again, trust me).