Lemmy is booming
I have never before received so many reactions and comments on my Lemmy posts before, so it’s obvious to see, that there are many new members here.
Welcome to all the new! And I’m looking forward to see more of you here.
Cheers!
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Cheers! Lemmy has been awesome so far! I just need Mlem to be developed more, or have some other iOS developer come in.
On Desktop, it seems Lemmy is at its best right now.
hell yeah hell yeah dudes rock
i cant help but worry its going to go south as everything does once a critical mass is hit
@peeonyou
The past doesn’t determine future results.One of the benefits of the federated model is that instances can fragment into smaller islands if things get too awful being part of the main continent. Though that’s also a downside, IMO.
Here’s the thing about federated content from a reddit perspective (as I get it currently, please correct)
Your favorite subreddits will be splintered across servers. Mods for those subreddits will be controlled by the server admins. This is the same system. Except that when a sever decides to enact a bad policy in those subreddits at the admin level, it does not infect other subreddits outside that server.
And your criticism has always been true of reddit btw. People ditch one subreddit for another. Or avoid r/all at all costs. So this shouldn’t be much different I wouldn’t think.
Indeed, Reddit can do the “fragmentation” thing as well. But the big difference is that you can never escape the admins, all subreddits are ultimately under the same top bosses. And you can’t “defederate” with, say, /r/conservative to effectively cause everyone over there to cease to exist as far as your own subreddit is concerned.
Whether this is better or worse is going to be interesting to see play out.
I’d say better. Only one thing could very easily break the system in my opinion and that would be everyone sticking to just one server anyways. Because then it allows the server to be targeted by say, movie studios, for people sharing clips of their movie. And then changes might happen in response to affect too many users. Or if monetization becomes a problem. Even then though, I don’t see a huge problem if everyone learns their lesson. Because again, if you don’t like a specific subreddit about Lord of the Rings and you don’t want to join their Tolkienite cult, you can block it out. Or block the whole server its on. And yet if a specific server is hostile to LoTR, you’d still be able to find their content elsewhere.
One of my concerns is about a real de-centralised system not being implemented, as i learned. Migration of users and communities is not possible. Therefoe partial meltdowns are still possible.
everything does. planet earth itself will. best thing to do is enjoy it while we can and take any preventative measures we can
Yeah but that’ll be like 10 years from now or something
happy to be here. Is lemmy named after lemmings?
Look at the lil pancake
(No idea if image posts will federate to Lemmy but let’s find out)I see no pancake lol
@mordekaiq89 If you hit the little ActivityPub icon (the rainbow one) on my post, it should take you to my instance where you can see it.
That’s actually kinda a really nice feature of federation. Each instance kinda becomes its own image/video host (assuming your software supports it). Just have to actually use that data in the frontend…
ohh, so lemmy accounts also connect with mastodon instances? (and now i see pancake)
that’s right! its all interconnected.
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Personally I’m excited for my Lord of the meme (lotr memes)s server to eventually get people of the same interest.
I wish clicking that link in jerboa would go to that community in the app isn’t of opening a browser window.
I wish the same. Also if I could navigate comments with the volume buttons
Edit: If you change the app settings and add link you can make it open the link in app. The problem is Google made it so apps have to get verified
Yeah, turn on in your app settings! I saw this too the other day and it works now.
A setting to open links to lemmy communities or posts in the app? I don’t see that in jerboa. How would it even know that a link points to a lemmy instance anyway?
If you’re on Android Settings > Apps > Default Apps > Opening Links > Jerboa > Tick all the boxes
I see now, that’s not a great solution since it will only work for the whitelisted sites. I’ve seen talk of mastodon adopting a custom url scheme (https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/2291). Maybe lemmy should consider something like that too.
Edit: also, checking those settings messed up opening images, when you click on an image, it takes you back to the main screen in the app.
I tried looking at google trends to see if there are recent spikes in searches for lemmy, but it’s a bit had because they didn’t categorize for the lemmy software.
a few years ago it was literally a handful of ppl posting 90% of links and talking to each other, witnessing firsthand how complicated it is to get over that initial user retention bump, but i’m convinced we’re over it now :)
I come back after a couple of weeks and we’ve quadrupled at least. It comes in waves, and now I’m thinking it may not stop (until some reddit staff make their own BlueSky equivalent, of course)
Welcome to Lemmy’s Eternal September!
Though, as I am also a Redfugee, I apologise for the disruption we’re about to cause. Hopefully the Fediverse can withstand the “Reddit Hug of Death.”
Hah, this is the second “September” I’ve been through, and it’s huge, but I think the eternal one will be the next one. At least a lot of people are learning that lemmy.ml isn’t a neutral flagship instance; the hug of death may have been a blessing in disguise, encouraging people to spread to the other instances a little bit more.
Most people who have come over have been pretty good about the thing and tried to learn about the local culture instead of just inventing “reddit, but here” again, honestly, but it’s just that the few troublemakers tend to be louder and argumentative.
So I’m part of both Septembers for you then!
My deepest apologies…
I’m really liking lemmy/fediverse, and I feel like I’m being quite respectful, trying to be part of the community that’s already here not force it to be Reddit 2.0. I have, sadly, seen a few people being, for lack of a better word, dickheads. They seem to be new, and carrying on with the Reddit toxicity.
Part of why I didn’t just buckle down and use the Reddit app when the APIocolypse hits is because I was sick of the toxic nature of so much of the interaction on Reddit. I know there’ll be trolls coming, just hope the fediverse can avoid what Reddit became.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask sorry, but how do I tell which comments are new on a thread I’ve already visited? Like on the frontpage it says “x new comments”, but when I go into the thread I can’t tell which ones are new. I’m accessing Lemmy using a browser.
iiuc easiest way to tell is to just sort comments by new, also very new comments are temporarily highlighted by a lighter grey background, but that’s about it i think 🤷♀️
So there’s no way to easily see which child comments are new since you’ve last visited the thread?
Even if not, it should be fairly simple to make an extension or userscript that does it. All the necessary data is already on the page. If Lemmy really does blow up I’m sure we’ll get something like RES that gives us more frontend customization options.
Wondering the same. Some comments are highlighted for me and some aren’t.
Might be a bug or might be grounds for a feature request.
It’s kind of awesome :) A question to others here. I mostly see stuff from beehaw and lemmy.ml on All. Are these the most active servers?
Except for lemmygrad, yes.
That seemed like a very strange place :|
Strange is a rather euphemistic word for it.
Well I knew many people who were in a similar place in real life. Most of them were unhappy and struggling in real life and got sucked into an ideology that seemed attractive. Eventually after understanding how it doesn’t actually solve the problems they struggle with, most of them end up with non-extreme political learnings.
Many of the people I knew struggled a lot during this period and were exploited by others wanting to take advantage of their lack of exposure and experience.
Tldr; I try to be sympathetic to the people there as I’ve seen many people suffer a lot in real life going through the same. YMMV.
They are not cultists. There are more people from outside the anglosphere there so you might find them strange but try talking to them, they are normal people.
It feels like you’ve basically not read anything I’ve written. You’d be glad to know that I’m not in anglosphere and I don’t think people who believe in communism are cultists either.
I’ve lived in one of the few places in the world where a communist leaning government has been elected on and off for many years and they haven’t gone down the authoritarian route but participated in democracy.
None of that make the points I made invalid though.
I’m new around here. Why was it strange?
Basically extreme left. Not in the US politics sense but in the I want armed revolution and China is great sense.
It’s not terribly active, but my instance midwest.social has people on it. There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Found it. Still not able to figure out how to follow communities there from Jebora. The technology community seems like my speed on your server :)
Yeah, it’s not very easy to find the community itself on Jerboa. I do most of my browsing/admin duties via browser.
I just submitted an application to join, so soon there will be baker’s dozens!
@Parsnip8904
I think so. There was also jeremmy.ml but it doesn’t seem to be reachable right now.Thank you :) I remember seeing a solarpunk and another science server in the list but haven’t seen anything from those in my all feed either.
@Parsnip8904
It can be because no one on your instance is following communities from over there. There needs to be at least one follower of a topic/community before posts are pulled to the instance you’re on.@Parsnip8904
So if you want to follow a community on another instance which your own instance doesn’t know about, take the URL of the community from the remote instance and put it in the search field on your own instance and then you can follow it. After that new posts from there will show upThanks a lot! I’m going to try this out now. I wish there was a sidebar or something that explained some gotchas like this.
@Parsnip8904
Yeah that would indeed be helpful.
Yes, by quite a margin as well, I believe. It’s unfortunate, and the only solution is to make diverse instances and advertise them well :) The fediverse is better if the load is more evenly distributed across instances instead of having most users sit on a couple of instances.
It will happen over time. Lemmy and Beehaw are still infinitesimally small compared to reddit. Trying to push people onto other servers right now is extreme premature optimization.
The issue is that the “first move” advantage is quite real and the momentum gained by lemmy.ml and beehaw.org can easily dwarf diversity on the network. Of course you don’t have to aggressively spread people out, but maybe the spotlight should be fairer, so to speak.
Can you explain what the issue is? I think it’s all but inevitable that one server will become the “default” server that most people will create an account on first. As they learn more about how everything works, they may choose to create another account on a server with different rules that suite them better. That flow seems much easier to me than putting pressure on new users to pick the “right” server from them off the bat.
It happened with mastodon.social, and it’ll probably happen here too.
For what it’s worth, having a few “bigger” instances means less confusion for users who don’t completely understand federation yet but still want to make the switch. I wouldn’t call it a bad thing, they can always turn to another smaller instance later on.
Sure, that is a valid concern, but maybe that could also be mitigated by making it pretty clear that you can interact with content on other servers just fine, even if you’re not from there. Perhaps a little note banner on the “Join Lemmy” page itself.
Regarding moving to another instance, that is not quite possible right now. There’s no way to properly move an account to another server, you’d just have to start from scratch with a new identity. In the future, it would be nice to have proper account migration, or at the very least a way to import/export account data.
You’re right, a few additions / changes to the Join Lemmy page would indeed go a long way.
Regarding account migration, I’m fairly certain it’ll be implemented in the future if the project lives on long enough.
I have a small, new instance, and I’m not really sure how to advertise it to the lemmy-verse. Do we have a good place to put our instances and what communities we’re hosting?
Hey, welcome! Thank you for your contribution to the network :D
As for discoverability, it is a problem yet to be properly solved. For now, I’d suggest making a launch post and share your communities in the many posts that have recently popped around (e.g https://lemmy.pt/post/36126)
Yeah that’s what I’ve been doing so far, for new users it’s pretty clear why they’re mostly just hanging out in lemmy.ml. Getting the word out about outside communities is a bit difficult, but hopeful. I’m viewing all of this as a perfect “Reddit gave Lemmy a window to view painpoints and minimize them before a larger exodus”. I don’t think we’ll see anything like the migration from Digg, but I see a lot of people who will be open to alternatives if Reddit goes through with this end of month. Right now it’s “How do we funnel them” when they drop the hammer.
The time you see a system’s weakness most clearly is definitely when stressing it in a real scenario. The goal is to improve further each time we get an influx of users :)
True. Maybe there can be something like rotating registrations.
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Yes, it is. You can even do new posts by tagging a community such as @lemmy (this one). Put your title on its own line at the start of the toot, and probably put the tag at the end of the toot otherwise it messes up the formatting in the title.
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Maybe I’ll become more active now 🤔
Reddit won’t work on my phone anymore so I had to find somewhere new, and most other places are alt right cesspits
Is it limited by country or something? Cus I’m not in the US and can use Boost no problem.
I think they are referring to impending changes to the Reddit API which haven’t taken effect yet.
Oh, I thought they had already taken effect. Thanks!
The Reddit exodus has begun! My only regret is not learning about lemmy and the fediverse before things blew up over there.
As one of the emigredditors, hell yeah! Presonally though, I’m still testing the waters and making myself more comfortable here; it’s eerily quiet here as compared to reddit, but I hope it’s just a matter of time :)
I’m calling it the Reddit APIocolypse.
I prefer Cory Doctorow’s “enshittification.”
Problem is, reddit has been undergoing an enshittification for nearly a decade. This is just the culmination.
Yes it’s been declining for quite some time. There’s new good things in smaller subs too, but the “all” feed and most popular ones have become unbearable.
The problem with reddit comes from the top. The APIocolypse is just the latest symptom of core degradation. There’s also the rampant abuse of power by mods on some of the most popular subs, the far right/fascists and homophobic/transphobic rhetoric going unpunished by a lot of mods but then coming down on the people who push back against it, the massive influx of bot activity etc etc etc.
Reddit, while being more popular than ever, is now a rotten husk of the beautiful dream it used to be…
I’ve been using redfugees but I think emigredditors is better
Man I knew there had to be a more witty word for this. I’d happily trade the word with redfugees XD
I kinda like the idea of a mass lemmygration.
Emigredditors is great lol, I’m stealing that as a fellow emigredditor :)
Yes there’s definitely a need for more users to really make things take off, but I believe that’s a matter of time, assuming reddit doesn’t take a fairly large change of course in the near future. Got to say, it feels a lot more friendly than reddit has lately.
Definitely, especially as someone who always felt a little reserved while writing comments in large subs, talking in a smaller community feels a little more welcoming (・ω<) I’m not too hopeful about reddit’s decision making either, even though I see a lot of subs planning a strike in protest to their latest policy
Have people been clearing out their reddit comment and post history on the way out the door?
I used power delete suite on my 10 year old account. Figuring that when API access gets shut off old.reddit and the ability to edit and delete old comments will go too.
I haven’t gotten rid of my content and don’t plan to. I had a good six years signed up with Reddit. Some of my comments include tech support and advice. Sure, I’ve had heated arguments and swore at times but I’m happy to keep what I have so that people don’t get confused looking at old historical threads.
it’s absolutely awesome here! :-D
I feel like being part of the internet of my youth again.Random bullshit posts, random memes, it’s like when Reddit started! Content made by people, not companies pushing whatever agenda they have
Eh, I’m fine with neutral and minimal moderation of sorts. Anyone that was around to see Voat.co and Ruqqus.com saw it disintegrate pretty quickly, due to the lawlessness and lack of content moderation.
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