• eighty@lemmy.one
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    2 years ago

    I can relate to the “how the fuck is being a concerned human being extreme/poltical?” energy in the post hard.

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        It’s so exhausting, they treat it like a sport, it’s not about making anyone’s lives better it’s all just about their team winning

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          It’s people creating their own victories because they’re lacking their own.

          Love your username, btw!

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      Politics used to be something people engaged in. Now politics is the core to a lot of people’s identities, which means disagreement or debate is perceived as a personal attack and people will embrace a tremendous amount of cognitive dissonance to avoid being wrong.

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          All of human civilizations outside this recent small blip in history in the developed western world.

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            Aye, I wonder if cavemen cared what some minority in the tribe might be doing or just shrugged their shoulders about it. Is it human nature to find it hard to accept? Oh weren’t the Romans ok with it, that was a while ago.

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        Well, unfortunately we have more than our share of the brainwashed here…

    • Drew Got No Clue@lemmy.world
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      I despite this “trend” of considering just simple opinions and basic statements as “political”. It’s been watered down and turned into a meaningless tag.

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    Linus gives exactly zero fucks about saying exactly what’s on his mind. And it’s almost always massively based. He’s always been great about that, we don’t deserve such a great mind.

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    Woman right to choose, fair enough. Regulated guns, absolutely. The less guns the better. Gay people stuff, I couldn’t care less. Check.

    The man said it as it should be said.

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      What would you use for a synonym for based? I keep seeing that used. I always thought it was just some alt-right meme bullshit, but I’m learning I was wrong. I still don’t get the use. My mind always thinks “based on what?”

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        “Based” is typically used to describe someone who says/does something without caring if they’ll be judged for it. Most commonly, it’s shorthand for “That’s a controversial opinion and you are bold for saying it, but I agree with you.” It turns the previous sentence into an adjective, which is a little weird but it makes sense eventually.

        So if I had to choose a single word as a synonym, I would say “Bold”.

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          Bold, all right, yes. That works for me. It’s really been hurting my head reading “based” and not being able to make sense of it. Thank you! Seriously.

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    Linus has always been political and principled, I mean he chose the GPL for a reason! Glad to see him state all of this outright though, it only makes me respect him more.

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      I could have sworn I saw him saying years and years ago that he probably wouldn’t go GPL if he went back and did it over. I thought it was strange at the time.

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    Maybe because he’s not “American” and comes from a country with regulations like the rest of the world, and people care when they vote to make things work.

    And like most of the rest of the world, there are more than two political parties, and is not a drama show.

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      He has American citizenship and lives in America, he’s talking about America here. And I promise you that other countries, yes even those in the magical fantasy land of Europe, also have lots of political drama despite having more than two parties in the government (They tend to form alliances based on left/right and split into two blocks anyway).

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        I know, im from Europe.
        The drama is not compared to USA, we don’t vote on celebrities.

        In my country we even have a party for the animals and climate, só when USA still trying to vote for basic rights, we already ahead and vote for animal rights and more climate change.

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          Yeah no, this “America Bad and backwards 3rd world country while us Europeans are so enlightened” circlejerk isn’t constructive either. The American political system is terrible but a lot of European countries, mine included, are copying their “celebrity drama show” attitude towards politics because of extreme American cultural influence. We shouldn’t deny our own problems.

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    I don’t see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

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      I don’t think the title is good, but I do think it’s notable to some extent. With people having weird, shitty opinions, it’s nice to see someone who is relatively famous in the tech community for having somewhat sane opinions and being vocal about it.

      In my experience, the Linux community has got its own bunch of free speech weirdos who would reject some of these political points (especially the trans position), so I do think in that context it is kind of important.

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        Otoh, his Akkoma instance should block poa.st. It is Noble of him to argue, but probably it won’t accomplish much when he takes bait.

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            For someone out of the loop, what’s the deal with poa.st? I followed the link and it says its for shitposters which… doesn’t sound good… but could mean a few different things.

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      I’ve seen people on other sites malding about how this proves linux and the GPL are communist. I suppose it’s important to know just what those people are melting down about this week.

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        @ElectronSoup @juergen @bobslaede I feel like the FOSS community has a lot of different types, but the two that stand out to me the most are the Eric Raymond right-libertarian (“I just want to say the n word without repercussions”) and the Richard Stallman vague leftist (minus the creepy shit).

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        Surely that already happened in the Code of Conduct drama a few years back? Or the “Linus is rude and difficult to work with” callout even before that?

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      The man can say what he wants and it’s nothing to do with Linux. And, his gun stance seems fair to me. I think he is an intelligent man, and I think he’s allowed to say his thoughts without some lame arse trying to tie his ideals to the OS. Move on, nothing to see here.

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        This is exactly what I was thinking as well. Why is it so hard for folks to separate what someone creates from the creator? If we found out the person who created, say, the bandaid, was a militant Nazi homophobe who advocated for marriage at the age of 6, should we feel guilty every time we need to cover a cut or scrape?

        Personally, I don’t know much at all about Linus, what he prefers for breakfast, whether he wears slippers in the house or goes barefoot, and so on. He could staunchly advocate that my country do away with its present form of government and declare him dictator for life for all I care.

        I like Linux. I use Linux. It gets the job done. End of story.

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          Giving a medical example for comparison is spot-on since a lot of our knowledge about human body actually comes from experiments done by nazis :)

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        you do realize that linux has very political basing in it, right? do you realize that politics is a structure of governance and hence everything the authority on linux has to say will eventually, if not automatically, affect the project?

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      Well, there was drama here yesterday about Lemmy’s creator and maintainer being a tankie or whatever and one person trying to say “Lemmy bad” because of that.

      This post doesn’t seem to be here by coincidence.

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        This post doesn’t seem to be here by coincidence.

        As the person who posted the original post: i don’t like/trust tankies and them being tankies is one of the reason i deleted my lemmy.ml account.

        My impression is that Linus also doesn’t speak in his post about tankies, but instead i think the word “communist” is equal to some general leftist.

        But i kind of agree, that this post can be seen as “in support of tankies”. hmm.

        my impression is, furthermoore: because the more tankie politics is on lemmygrad.ml, an instance which is easily blocked, it is not that bad / could be worse. I kind of hope instances like beehaw.org have the most users someday, because they are really awesome i think

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          First, not every communist is a tankie, second, yes, Linus is not talking about being a literal communist, but about the “everyone to the left of Trump is a communist” meaning of the word.

          Third, what I was saying is that this post about the political views of the creator of a huge FOSS project is very well timed after yesterday’s discussion about Lemmy’s creator.

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      Gloating? Complaining? I thought the FOSS community has matured past “creator’s views = views of everyone who uses their creation”, honestly. And isn’t Linus supporting the Democratic party already well known?