• Godort@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    The issue here is that they think “The Bible is the word of God and i believe what it says” and “I hate gay people and wish they would all die” mean the same thing.

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        It does not

        36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

        37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

        Matthew 22:36-40

        If the second greatest commandment is to love your neighbor as yourself, then hate has no place in Christianity.

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          So, the conclusion then should be that any person hating another person because of whatever and “basing” it on believe/bible is not a christin buy a heretic, right?

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            Basically, almost all the hateful stuff comes from the old testament, which Jesus went, “That’s invalid now”

            Really, it would be a lovely religion without all the people

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              But, did he?

              Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

              I’ve often seen that as a response, when someone claims that Jesus wiped the shitty Old T nonsense away.

              That’s the trouble with the bible, it’s a book written by a bunch of men with competing interests over thousands of years ago, and honestly could have used a team of diligent editors, but has been held up as the infallible word of some dude sitting in the clouds.

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                Fulfill it, as in complete it. It’s done. With his sacrifice he formed a new covenant. He goes on to say that anyone who wants to follow any part of the law of Moses must follow the whole law of Moses*. That means that anyone judging someone for old testament laws is a sinner themselves for eating pork or shrimp, for wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, and 611 other laws that are quite difficult to follow in a modern world.

                *Galatians 5:4

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                  Thanks for the clarification!

                  It is an old, confusing patchwork quilt of a book and much of it open to interpretation - with many picking and choosing.

                  I just don’t worry about that and instead try to abide by one rule - do unto others. Be excellent to everyone. Seems to serve me fairly well.

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            I think the proper terminology would be “apostate”, but you are correct. There is no hatred of any kind in legitimate Christian beliefs. It is the political far-right who improperly conflate their strongly held bigotry with their Christian affiliation.

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          “If one comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.” - Luke 14:26

          “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword” - Matthew 10:34

          It’s almost like it’s all made up bullshit and you can make it say anything you want 🤔

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        There’s people who don’t believe that, but only because they’re ignoring the parts that tell them to.

        They’ll have excuses, like this other schmuck, but bear in mind that seventeen centuries of aggressively scriptural Christian governance had no trouble enacting violence on specific groups of people.

        Even when Martin Luther nailed a long-ass list of complaints to the door of the church, demanding they follow the book more closely… his opinion of Judaism was not ‘let’s be nicer toward our beloved brethren,’ if you catch my drift.

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      When the bible is the one saying gay people should die, it kinda does.

      The saving grace is that most people who say that don’t actually mean it, as they either haven’t really read it, or have made enough mental gymnastics to ignore the stuff they don’t agree with.

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    It isn’t your belief in a god that is considered hate speech, it is you trying to implement your religious views into laws that is the problem.

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    Isn’t it illegal to believe in God in some parts of the world?

    And it’s illegal to NOT believe in God in other parts.

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    See it’s never the whole story, in reality it would be more like

    The bible is the word of God and I believe what it says [which is
    is why I locked my child in the basement for kissing out of wedlock
    
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      Not exactly. I feel like I can make some pretty accurate predictions about somebody who says that to me, although I would respond differently to them.

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    hilarious considering the popularity of carter who was very religious. might have something to do with actually following the morality of it.

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    Well if you believe the word of god outright and the word of god says kill all gays, maybe it is hate speech, acolyte.