My experience with the Fediverse has only been through Mastodon, through which I struggled to find a community I really gelled with. Either it was supper overwhelming with meme posts or NSFW, or it was too chill to the point of nothing. Or, it was hyperfocused like FOSS/Linux and became uninteresting after awhile. May try again, but I think I will explore the other fedisites like Plemora or Calckey to see if I like it better.
I love the pace of a forum. I grew up primarily with GameFAQS and some lucid dreaming forum, and honestly it was very formative in teaching me how to write and use critical thinking skills, as well as how to respond to a variety of temperaments. I stopped participating in online forums awhile ago, and while I loved Reddit as a resource, I never felt inspired to participate. In the same way, there are an incredible number of forums dedicated to a certain topic, and are extremely valuable, it would be annoying to make an account for all the things I am interested in.
I like what lemmy is becoming. Glad to find system that makes interacting with people enjoyable.
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Yeah the twitter style of social media has always confused me, I feel like there’s much more community and fun here than mastodon but I use both
I have tried to go back to Mastodon, but I have not found an instance that makes me care enough.
Yeah same here, Reddit is my mindless scrolling app of choice, not Twitter, so when I tried to use Mastodon I just kinda stood there not knowing what to do
I love being able to read and immerse myself is specific communities and whatnot, and specifically I love Reddit for the discourse, people posting in a community, replying to posts, and replaying to those replies, and so on
So Lemmy has just become my jam, so happy that Reddit has an open source federated alternative now, even if they reverse their API debacle I’m still gonna keep using this app
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I never understood why people were so into Twitter, from my perspective it’s like a new media version of press releases - big name people harp about whatever they harp about and I read about it elsewhere if it’s relevant to me.
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It is not (just) for narcissism: it can fill a niche similar to RSS. When I was using Twitter, 90% of the posts I read were from companies or projects announcing news and updates. It also had a built in comments, so you have a single, shared discussion/q&a space in the same app.
Obviously, the biggest advantage it has over RSS (and Mastodon, so far) is critical mass. More creators have Twitter accounts than RSS feeds and for those that have both, the Twitter account is always more active.
And for me at least, Twitter is almost exclusively read-only for me. There are some people that tweet stuff that I like to keep up with, but trying to engage there is super toxic. Reddit/lemmy is way better for actually talking about stuff with people. There is toxicity but it’s easier to ignore/downvote than Twitter, somehow.
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That’s a great way of looking at it! (First post ever)
Seriousl though, waking up I looked at Reddit, going to sleep I looked at Reddit. All day Reddit, and too often the same crap repeated but I was not willing to risk sorting by new, just hot, best of, or rising.
I use Inoreader to put in the Top Day or Top Week RSS feeds of various subreddits. (Just found out I can do the same here on Lemmy.) It helps keep my usage from getting addictive like I’m trying to squeeze blood from a rock, and it keeps me from seeing the same posts over and over again. I see all the important stuff. Once. When the feed runs out, it runs out. I really enjoy it.
Neato! That is probably a lot healthier than checking in every 30 minutes looking to see if something changed.
I will try it. Thank you!
Strongly agree. Mastodon is alright and I use it a little, but the twitter-type format never really worked for me. I feel like when I have to follow individual people I usually end up either following no one or being forced to follow people who post things that interest me sometimes but a lot of the time post things that really don’t. Following particular topics or threads just seems much more natural to me; I can look at exactly what interests me and nothing more.
Big same here man big same
Interesting people are not interesting all of the time, and following people usually just results in your feed loading up with complaints, gossip and drama.
I want to talk about things and ideas, not people.
I’ve been thinking that it is probably easier to move a community from a platform like Reddit to the Fediverse than it is from Twitter. I have used both Twitter and Reddit a lot, but have moved off Twitter and now use Mastodon. Mastodon works pretty well for me, but it’s taken a lot of work to get there, and there are parts of the communities (mostly related to my work) I want to connect with that just don’t exist on Mastodon.
But the big difference between Reddit/Lemmy and Twitter/Mastodon is that on Reddit/Lemmy I am interested in communities for topics that are mostly hobbies/entertainment etc. for me, so I don’t really care about who I’m interacting with… I can’t really name more than a handful of regular users or mods on the Reddit subs I’ve been using for more than a decade. But it’s not really important for interacting there, because it’s about interacting with people who have an interest in a particular topic no matter who they are. On Twitter/Mastodon (at least how I use it), the specific people I’m interacting with are more important.
So it seems the “lock in” of Reddit is weaker than Twitter, and I think it’ll be quicker to establish communities here. A community on Lemmy with a few hundred people contributing (posts/comments) is already pretty successful and enjoyable. It doesn’t matter that the equivalent community on Reddit has over a million people (and in fact it’s often better if it’s smaller!).
That weaker lock in and the fact that Reddit seems to be massively undervaluing the contribution mods and third-party app devs make to the platform make me think Reddit is going to quickly regret this whole fiasco.
For sure the main appeal with Twitter was the direct communication with celebrities and other notable people, or at least some fascimile of interaction. It did a lot to close the gap between the famous and their fans/denouncers.
Reddit had some cool AMAs, but otherwise it was just regular people dedicated to their interests and passionate about sharing it.
What really disgusted me was how easily a few people could hijack a sub and make it their business platform to sell products.
It is important to have spaces that are completely insulated from advertisement and all the facets of capitalism.
Mastodon needs to absorb a critical mass of the users who drive content on Twitter in order to be a viable replacement. A Lemmy community only needs enough members to keep itself fairly active.
True, I also think lemmy is the main star of fediverse (peertube too) because they don’t need network effect qnd milions of users.
Problem with reddit is it got too big l, similar like youtube, it always recommending me videos with milions of views and I don’t like them - they are professionally done and trying to sell me something.
I just want to watch random people sharing their thoughts and hobbies.
Right now we don’t have that part of the internet, but looks like it is comming back.
Indeed. Most of the subreddits I liked the most were ones with relatively small subscriber counts.
I think some of that is your YouTube profile, because I regularly reject recommended content on YouTube that has 250 subs or 1000 views. Mostly because it’s someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing in terms of making an engaging video so I get super bored quick. I don’t know how to tell you to change it, I do get stuff I ignore in the newpipe default list thats huge and completely uninteresting to me. But that may just be a default link, and I never go to just YouTube.com without just using it to search for a channel I like. I also don’t like or subscribe as I don’t really want another indicator of the channels I might watch. They can figure it out from what I load anyway.
Another Reddit refugee here: lemmy makes much more sense to my brain than mastodon ever did. So far, this has huge promise.
I felt kind of lost when looking for a Reddit alternative. Lemmy feels like the right alternative. It’s not perfect but it’s a better base than what we had with Reddit. I hope it picks up.
Yeah, I like Lemmy’s organisation, but it lacks people. Now when Reddit is shitting om its users, I am hopeful that Lemmy will explode in user base soon.
@President_Pyrus @SmugBedBug It is not necessary that everyone who uses #Lemmy has to be a Lemmy user. Thanks to the #Fediverse , everyone from Mastodon, Misskey, etc. can also participate in Lemmy content (also post in communities, just don’t create your own communities). For example, I am currently replying from Friendica. The circle of people is much, much larger, so it’s not a problem if Lemmy lacks people.
@caos @President_Pyrus @SmugBedBug
And I am reading your exchange and replying from Mastodon ;)And I’m here from kbin. The beauty of the Fediverse!
I still have a lot to learn from the fediverse. I didn’t even know that that was possible. My mind is a little blown at the moment. Gonna have to go do some reading.
I rely hope it takes off like Mastodon did. Like everything worthwhile online, its the efforts of one person doing miracles to create something everyone can use, so if I want it to exist I will have to contribute to it somehow.
The problem with mastodon is the same problem as twitter. Its just not a good social experience. I have said this before. Twitter/Mastodon are for individuals with a high follower count to get their message out. Its not for the other 99.99% that want to engage each other and discuss topics o interest.
I kind of see Mastodon as a Twitter replacement and Lemmy as a Reddit replacement. Each has specific use cases. I can see both platforms having value in my online engagement.
The possibility to follow hashtags in mastodon is a real progress : i just follow a few account but i like following hashtags on mastodon/pixelfed and may be tomorrow peertube. lemmy suffer from lack of contents. I hope it will improve in the comming months
Yes, neither is better than the other, they both fill the voids left by the failures of big companies.
The most interesting things I’ve found on Mastodon are the bots from Twitter accounts, and thats it.
For me the decentralized nature of Lemmy / Kbin, (the only two reddit clones i know right now), is what’s really bringing me in.
I’ve been on Reddit for over a decade and seen communities completely close and go private because either a lack of moderation or infestation of bots. With how Lemmy and Kbin are set up, if one group of people don’t agree with another, they can set up shop on a different server.
This really gives users power over communities instead of having to do different naming such as
r/animemesvsr/goodanimemes.the nice thing about the fediverse is that you can still interact with the other platforms if you so choose, so you aren’t limited! I’m glad you found something that works for you and i hope you have a great time :)
I love that you can follow PeerTube channels from Lemmy. This user influx on Lemmy could mean big things for PeerTube.
Thank you!
Can you explain? how do we interact with mastodon here for example?
@stefenauris below posted a more detailed answer, but it’s a bit harder to interact with Mastodon from Lemmy. From kbin it has native operability for mods to define keywords or hashtags for their subs and brings that content in natively, so it’s a little easier here.
People from Mastodon can subscribe to Lemmy communities and once Mastodon adds groups later this year the reverse will likely also be possible.
I assume this is because of adhering to ActivityPub standards?
Yes, although the standard is quite loosely defined, so things are not always fully compatible and Lemmy (on purpose) doesn’t allow following users like most other Fediverse software.
sure! most of this functionality is in the search box. You can paste a URL and have it show up right in Lemmy. For example, you can post the URL to my profile, or search for my username and see my posts there (or you should be able to I thought, I just tested it and it doesn’t show my posts but it does offer to send me a message)
Edit: This seems to work better between Friendica and Mastodon, but as development continues between platforms I’m sure it will work even better!
Edit 2: So I just tested it in reverse, I can see a feed of a Lemmy group in Mastodon. I think Lemmy just needs some more development time and love and it will be able to do the same :)
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People are very chill here. However, we are all going through the same thing… we are trauma bonding over the loss of a loved one lol. As the site grows I am sure the vibe will change.
Yeah kinda, though I think the UX is indeed definitely better than modern reddit, focus on the relevant stuff, and do it well (fast, and simple design).
But unfortunately the richness of information of most subreddits is still kinda missing, but hopefully this will settle over time (and I hope that the sheer mass migration from reddit will not kill/ddos the main instances).
I for one am extremely excited to see what Lemmy’s first mainstream-news-tier controversy is going to be 🤣
someone “actually famous” is gonna join in and will inevitably get bullied off. that’s the textbook Fediverse Experience™
i’d throw a RemindMe! here but i don’t think anyone has set up a bot for that here yet
How does one make boys for lemmy?
Edit: looks like there are libraries to help with that. E.g. https://github.com/SleeplessOne1917/lemmy-bot
I mean commie hating (targeted on the main devs) will certainly be part of it in right-wing-media ^^
lol, yeah! I hated posting an even slightly unpopular opinion on reddit. Just downvotes and insults returned.
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Good point. As much as I want to love RSS, I do not like. I always find awkward somehow.
Maybe I just need the right app, but nah, I prefer the news when someone I like is excited about it.
I’d say this type of layout that focuses more on long form textual content is better for tech savvy people who are likely to stick with the fediverse than the twitter clone that Mastodon was.
Mastodon has benefitted from news articles and the sheer novelty of an alternative to Twitter, even before Elon Musk bought it out.
Lemmy probably won’t have the same fanfare, especially given the stigma Reddit has, like it was a secret to have an account, or talking about it betrayed you as some weirdo or pervert. Whatever, Reddit never seemed to have the same social acceptance as Twitter or anything Facebook owns.
I think it is good to have a community that is self-filtering. Let’s keep the IQ high on this one (with the exception of me, of course!).
This! I’m glad to see many tech-minded folks on Lemmy, but it doesn’t have the same neckbeard self-importance that Reddit seems to be known for
Power tripping in a niche on some corporate owned social media website will never be impressive.
So true… I think the worst thing about interacting with people on Reddit is getting downvoted to Hell if you say something sarcastic without “/s”
There it is. Some people are incapable of reading into context, and take everything so seriously.
Anyways, fuck that noise. I do not need social media to be some stupid zero sum game where I try to win by racking up points that do not matter because there is no prize.
@DidacticDumbass @vhstape wait, what?? So what am I supposed to do with all this karma??
Yeah, so far I fucking love lemmy! Open source software for the fucking win!
Fuck yeah!
