• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Testing done on specific hardware and not a broad spectrum of machines is as relevant as asking one person their political opinion and saying that applies to their whole nation.

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      1 year ago

      Well sure but rephrased it’s just “Three Linux distros that embarrass Windows 11 in gaming performance.” which to me, is equally interesting.

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        1 year ago

        article title: windows DEAD LAST!

        also in the same article: “… When it comes to FPS, the overall leader in testing was Nobara Linux, with Arch Linux and Pop!_OS trailing by 1–5%. Windows 11, however, was only 6% behind Nobara Linux. So, **there isn’t a massive performance delta here, **”

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          1 year ago

          Damn you really cut out the entire point of the fucking article right after that line. Wild.

          “but it’s an important milestone for Linux to be consistently ahead of Windows — especially in games designed to run on Windows.

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            1 year ago

            is the point of article not to stroke the ego of the Linux absolutists that have some weird chip on their shoulders when it comes to video games?

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              1 year ago

              I literally wrote the fucking point in the message you responded to.

              For gamers, Linux has become the better OS.

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                1 year ago

                No it hasn’t, some games run better on the hardware tested when running Linux, some games don’t work at all on Linux whereas all games run on Windows.

                Come back when they test multiple machines running various hardware and when they compare the experience setting up said machines to actually run the games.

                You’re exactly the person this article was written for, someone who wants their opinion reinforced because they won’t take the time to analyze the data presented.

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            1 year ago

            gaming and the abundance of software and third party support and tutorials on windows is why I haven’t taken the dive to linux yet. So yeah, if linux does gaming as well or better my migration is more and more likely.

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              1 year ago

              Exactly my point. I’ve been seriously fenceriding between Win 10 and Linux and the only thing stopping me is not having a second drive for dual boot and a distro that will let me game and do everything I’m doing right now, just better. Something like this does more than just perk up my ears.

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        1 year ago

        “on that one specific machine.”

        You’re missing that part from your premise and it’s the important one.

        Notice how they didn’t use one with an Nvidia GPU… Or even hardware released this year either…

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          1 year ago

          Nvidia isnt so bad if you’re on a stable distro it supports and using x(though Ive heard wayland support is improving for it). On rolling or more cutting edge distros where the kernel is likely to change every few weeks and major DE versions might ship that proprietary driver will hurt.

          That said while amd is generally better on linux for this reason it’s worth mentioning that it has two huge flaws:

          1.Its not perfect like the fans mention. As someone who owned a 3500u and 6650u apu life under amd isnt always sunny. 3500u had a kernel regression for about half a year that prevented the cpu from idling and rembrant apus have an issue where the whole system locks up which seems to come and go(feels like it’s gone for now but Ive thought that before). Desktop gpus are better, but they still did suffer from driver bugs. I think my experience with my 5600xt was better than windows fans had for that generation, but it was not entirely stable and I did suffer from many kernel panics and system freezes. A few mesa and kernel releases fixed that, but it wasnt perfectly smooth. In addition to that no hdmi 2.1 support which is fine unless you game using your nice oled tv because no tvs come with display port. Proprietary drivers do allow for supporting some of the more obnoxious features that arent allowed.

          1. It can vary gpu/cpu to gpu/cpu for how fresh your software will need to be, but generally newer hardware needs very new kernels just for basic support and it may need a few more releases to get stable or good. So if you want to just sit back with ubutnu LTS or debian you need to make sure the release cycle lines up with support for your hardware. The other end of the spectrum is that being on a bleeding or cutting edge distro can mean stability issues and regressions. So for example a month or three ago fedora pushed a kernel update that had a regression where my 6800xt gpu wouldnt clock up when utilized so gaming framerates tanked and retroarch shaders were choking up. I could just use the old kernel but I had to make sure that the kernel updates didnt bump it away. Also an entire point release and several releases after that before the bug was fixed.

          So while there is a lot of pro amd comments in the linux world and its worth acknowledging that the open source drivers are generally good it’s not perfect and the grass isnt always greener.

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            1 year ago

            Just from that comment we can see how far from mainstream adoption Linux is for gaming… You really need to want to understand how things work to fix things that might not work natively. Not every gamer wants to be super knowledgeable about computers, most just want to play games. Heck, I’m very good with computers and I know that what little time I have to play games I don’t want to spend trying to make them work…