recent: tears of the kingdom, or as i like to call it botw 1.2, its the same thing all over again just with one or two added gimicks, the open world is dead, npcs are boring and nintendo just got away with it like that
not so recent: i cant stand persona 5, joker and his entourage are annoying teenagers, the time management is a horrible gameplay addition and the artstyle is just a visual overstimulation
with that being said,~~ plz dont kill me~~
I’ll probably get roasted for this but… Pokemon. It just seems like endless copy/paste and might be one of the laziest game franchises I’ve ever seen. I’ve really tried to get into them. I was there when the Pokemon cartoon started, I saw it rise to the phenomenon it is today, but damn if it isn’t the most boring grindfest ever.
it doesnt just feel like copy paste, thats quite literally what they are doing, there is plenty of evidence online to show that they do but hey, if you can make whatever low effort thing you want and people still buy it why bother trying?
That’s a very common complaint for the last, hell I don’t even know, 20 games or whatever.
True, I’m not saying anything I haven’t heard before. It’s just crazy that people keep buying it thinking “Maybe this one will match the memories I had when I was 10.” I guess nostalgia is a powerful drug. Even more powerful than I thought… just looked up the Pokemon franchises worth and it’s estimated at 74 billion. Now I know how boomers feel cause I just don’t get it.
Yeah I don’t get it either. I don’t even get the nostalgia aspect, there are just so many new Pokémon that I feel they completely drown out the ones I grew up with, the first like 250 iirc, I have no desire whatsoever to play the new games.
But I suppose it’s still very popular with kids all around the world as well so there’s that.
I do agree that it’s the same thing recycled over and over.
If anyone does want to play them again, I highly recommend emulating them and accelerating the emulation to 2.5 or 3x speed. Makes it much more tolerable.
The pokemon fan games have been way more inventive than the mainline games for a while now. I just recently have been getting into pokemon infinite fusion and it’s FANTASTIC
I so badly want to play infinite fusion but I cant seem to get it to work, it crashes everywhere I’ve tried to play :(
I wanted to say the same; additionally, the games are sooo slow, and everything takes ages compared to most other games.
Same here, I’ve tried to get into pokemon so many times but I just don’t get it. The games just look so lazily made too
Every game after Black and White is copy paste garbage, but everything before that is pretty damn good.
They get away with the copy-paste because the combat system is fundamentally extremely solid.
The good thing about this is that programming-savvy fans have been creating free fan-games based on the formula for the last decade or so. As with any fan-made content the quality is extremely variable, but I have found some of the newer releases to be genuinely good games, better than anything GameFreak has put out in the last 20 years. Pokémon Unbound is a personal favorite - if you enjoy the fundamentals of the Pokémon games but feel the lack of creativity and puzzle-solving in the official releases I would suggest giving them a look.
I still can’t make it through any of The Witcher games. Smooth and satisfying gameplay is super important for me to enjoy a game, and The Witcher has always felt slow, clunky, unintuitive, and super menu-heavy. I’m sure the story is great! But I just can’t get past its gameplay.
I adore Witcher 3. That said I’ve always said controlling Geralt feels like driving a boat. God help you for the very few instances that you do platforming.
They added a different control style sometimes after release, didn’t they? I can’t recall the specific difference, but I think I used it for my playthroughs and it was less boat-y.
I’m not sure there. I played it several years after release, but I can’t remember one way or the other if there were alternate control options.
Even with trying that new control style I still had to go through and download a good 10-15 simple QoL mods just to put up with the game and how floaty and slippery Geralt feels to control
I’m playing mainly western RPG’s like that, but I also couldn’t get into The Witcher. The gameplay is fine actually (I played way more clunky games with lots of enjoyment). But somehow Gerald just never clicked with me, causing me never to feel really connected to my character and to what’s happening.
It’s sad because I can notice how good the games are, but I just really cannot get into it.
Same here. I really want to like The Witcher 3, but after trying to play it for 10 hours without feeling any enjoyment, I just gave up.
I couldn’t get into Witcher 3 for a very silly reason. I’m a delicate white man who couldnt stand being the target of racism in a game. I played for like, 3 hours and just felt sad.
It took me 3 attempts at starting The Witcher before I eventually got through it. I had just came off of Dark Souls 3 combat, so the combat in Witcher was especially clunky feeling. Eventually I moved into a new home, had nothing else to do, and proceeded to do nothing but play the game for 50 hours until I beat the game lol. I would say the story is worth it, but I agree that its kinda tough to get into.
Honestly, Stardew Valley for me. I’ve tried it a couple times and it just didn’t work for me. I wanted to like it, and I like the idea of it, but in practice, I hated the time management aspect and not being able to just run around and do as much as I wanted in a day (I haven’t played on PC with mods; I know there’s at least one or two that let you change that). I also hated the fishing. 🙃
Any game that has daily login bonuses or a bonus for playing every day. Animal crossing pocket or whatever it is. Pokémon go. A bunch of afk phone games. A bunch of gacha games. It just feels so shallow to me. Like, I’m not being manipulated to play something, I just end up feeling so guilty to lose a streak I’d rather delete the game.
While not a daily login bonus, the weekly and monthly tasklist of Forza Horizon 5 killed the game for me. It triggered some sort of fomo and I would rush in every week to grind the new tasks/events. That burned me out very fast, so I could not enjoy the rest of the game.
I think this CAN work if you naturally enjoy the game, but don’t want to make decisions about your game plan when you boot up.
I like Deep Rock Galactic. When given 15 mission options, I get choice paralysis, so it’s nice to have dailies/assignments that at least push me into a particular one just to get started.
Red Dead Redemption 2. Everyone goes on about how awesome it is, but I just found the story and gameplay really slow and dull.
RDR2 suffers heavily from the same problem as GTAV’s single player mode: it’s a movie posing as a video game and both aspects suffer for it.
RDR2 would have been great if it was just the part where you wander around tracking critters and collecting flowers and playing cowboy dress-up, but the game really doesn’t want you to do that. Not to belabor the point, but between how unpredictable the connection between “interact with item/character X” and “start mission with character Y” can be and the game’s tendency to fail missions the second you go off-script, RDR2 often felt like it was directed by someone who actively resented the concept of player agency.
You articulated my issue with it perfectly. In theory it was this amazing open world with tons of player freedom, but the minute you engage with the actual story at all you have no choice in anything. There was one quest where I HAD to rescue Micah and kill a butt load of people which really annoyed me given I was going for a white hat run.
There‘s this great video essay that basically agrees with you. Rockstar want to create these cinematic narrative experiences but that does not mash well with their concept of an open world.
My friends love it, but two hours in, I just feel worn.
Then I just drop it and never look back.
Can’t get it to stick.
My main grip with this game is how slow ans cranky everything feels. I miss the arcade feel of RDR1.
Rockstar has been moving that way in general for years. They get so focused on the immersive and sim stuff, they forget that they made their name on over-the-top chaotic fun. Everything from GTA4 onward suffers for it, other than RDR1 that struck a decent balance between the approaches.
I was really enjoying it, but I eventually got bogged down in the sidequests, and it really could’ve used a low-gore mode. The bloody deer carcasses got to me after a while.
I think I might have preferred it if it were a little smaller and more focused on the main storylines.
I do intend to go back to it sooner or later though.
I‘m with you. I don‘t get why so many people praise the story and the gameplay.
The mission design is very disappointing. You have this beautiful open world with so many systems that you can interact with. It can be fun to just start some shit and watch the chaos unfold. But the second you start a mission, everything is scripted and like on rails. You have no real freedom whatsoever in how you want approach a mission. The missions are also not challenging in the least (apart from some jank here and there). It‘s mostly just one turkey shoot after another.
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The story is not all that great. It‘s just not believable that anyone sane would stick so long with a gang leader who does not make a single good decision and clearly goes more and more off the deep end. It is also too long and overstays its welcome by tens of hours. Especially the whole Guarma chapter is hot garbage and would not have been missed at all if it weren‘t there.
I made it through to the end. I had to see for myself where they are going with the story. But I was kind of glad when it was over.
I wish another studio could license the world that Rockstar created and make a game that is actually good. But that is never going to happen.
I still mostly enjoyed it, but I do agree that it’s way overhyped. The game has a ton of great and fun moments, but it also has so much filler that causes the sense of progression to really grind to a halt.
It’s a game that IMO would have benefited from leaving some parts on the cutting room floor, but otherwise it’s not a bad game.
This will be an extremely hot take for some: Almost all recent online games are complete garbage that solely exist to make profit and create addicted user bases and they hurt what videogames truly are, a revolutionary and interactive form of art.
Didn’t play Skyrim at the time and the two times I’ve tried to get into It didn’t really click for me. I understand why people like It, may give another try sometime
Perhaps try a total conversion, skyrim is basically a mod engine anyway lel
I tried that, but in the end it turns out I found hunting for mods more fun than actually playing them.
Oh thank god, I came here to say Skyrim and was afraid of being the only one.
I should have liked it. Absolutely loved Morrowind. But just never could get into Skyrim despite multiple attempts and now I’ve given up.
In all fairness, you wouldn’t like it just because you liked Morrowind. The games play entirely different from one another and the story of Skyrim is a downgrade by several margins (though some of the sidequests are awesome).
This is coming from someone who has like 200 hours in Skyrim.
I never managed to get far in Skyrim. And even if you like it, I don’t think it’s too controversial to say that it has one of the worst intros for an open world game.
I could never get over the fucking monotone same-voice way every NPC speaks.
Everything about that game felt monotone, to me.
I think about trying again, once in a while, but haven’t yet. They keep releasing new versions at prices I’m not willing to pay for it.
Monster Hunter. It’s just so painfully slow and boring. Combat just feels clunky.
For me Skyrim, The Witcher 3, botw and all souls games.
Skyrim never clicked, it just felt buggy and empty and punishing. Trying to climb that mountain just so a yeti can beat you up? Great, here is your save spot form 15 min earlyer, please try again. I know that’s why it’s fun for so many, I just hated it.
The Witcher 3 was too… much dialogue. Most of the time I can play 1-3 hours every couple of days. And in the Witcher you walk 15min through beautiful but otherwise empty forest, killing 1-15 something, walk back and talk like another 15min with the guy who gave you the quest. It’s really deep worldbuilding, but when you don’t have a lot of time it’s more “damn, what happend last?” 5min walking “ah, that happened” takes new quest, so much talking…“ah damn, my hour is gone, so I finish the quest another time.” PC off.
Botw cause the world felt empty and everything broke in an instant and I’m the player ending with 50 healing potions, 10 big scrolls and so on cause MaYbE I’ll need it another time. Doesn’t match with botw. TotK is so much better handling this, cause you can craft any good item in an instant.
And Souls Games are just a broken mess. They’re not hard by default, they’re hard cause of all the buggy and mushy controls. It never feels crisp, it’s just a big blob and maybe your character rolls or maybe it feels like an invisible wall, who knows. Games like Jedi Fallen Order in hard mode or Hollow Knight were so much more fun, cause the controls were crisp and everytime I lost, it was because of me. I did wrong and not some squishi spaghetti code.
The Witcher 3.
It just feels so generic and suffers from one of the things I hate the most about rpgs. Endless sidequests that have nothing to do with the main quest.
Witcher 3 felt more like “I have sex and you should know about it” the game, to me at least
It felt like a chore. All the time I felt like “am I supposed to be having fun?”
Don’t hate me but I cannot get into Minecraft. I get so bored running around collecting supplies and building things, it feels like a chore each and every time I try it out.
I enjoy Minecraft, right up until it hits me how isolated I am in that world, then something clicks and I just feel unsettled.
It feels very empty I found. Even with other people. I get the same vibe from other survival games like Conan Exiles.
Just not my bag I guess.
Nah, you’re right. Typically when I play Minecraft, I’ll go hell for leather for maybe an hour. I’ll get through the first few nights, manage to scrape together a perfectly cromulent shelter, start mining like a bastard to find iron and coal, and then get bored and go and do something else because I’ve just used up yet another iron axe and I’ve not got enough material to replace it.
thats pobably why servers with gamemodes exist
Monster Hunter. I don’t understand any of it. I tried rise and generations and I just… I just don’t get it.
Borderlands: I mean the combat is fine and all, but the story is super weak. What is my incentive to keep playing? Just to click on more heads? There are better games for that (Doom, Quake, etc)
I was enlightened about why I didn’t like borderlands when I realized it was FPS Diablo. I just don’t enjoy the gameplay loop.
I played the crap out of borderlands… until one day I asked myself why… and… I never picked it up again. After that switch was flipped, the whole series just fell apart on me.
I stuggled with it so many times. I think Borderlands games, in general, are the ones I tried the most to enjoy, because everything about it is cool to me, the eastetic, the characters, the presentation…
I restarted the first at least 4 times, alone and in coop, thinking the problem was that it doesn’t work as a solo experience. I played the sniper and then I tried the gunman because, maybe, the sniper is not that enjoyable.
Then I got the 2, because maybe the first was too raw and basic.
I just… don’t have fun.
I point the cursor toward waves of spongy healthbars, and then I get server a giant plate of paralyzing choices between 64 billion gear options that clutter me and my frail mind.
I ended up loving Tales from the Borderlands: all the good from the worldbuilding and none of the gameplay loop.
Yeah basically. It’s a loot shooter, it’s very fun in co-op but not good enough to carry itself in singleplayer.
I was watching an escapist video about modern life service games and he said “saying a game is more fun with friends is a virtue of your friends, not the game.”
If a game needs friends to be fun, I think it’s just a garbage game.
I don’t think that always holds water, some games are just made to be played with others. Nobody is going to accuse Counter-Strike of being bad just because playing against bots isn’t the most thrilling experience. But for games like Borderlands definitely. Point being, the logic goes it’s bad and only saved by playing with friends doesn’t stop it from being a bad game, not that a game is bad just because it’s more fun with friends.
I guess I’m more specifically referring to the modern looter shooter live service bullshit that’s been taking over the industry. Not standard PvP multiplayer. Of course that’s the intended experience there, can’t blame that.
Didn’t see anyone else mention it, so I’ll say MMOs. Pretty much all of them. WoW, FFXIV, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars one (can’t remember the name). I really like the idea of MMOs, having a huge shared world that feels alive, tons of lore, epic quests, but I just find the gameplay loop so boring. They just feel like endless busywork to me.
Fallout: NV and Skyrim. People kept recommending them to me but neither really clicked. I put about 20 hours into each before just kinda dropping them and not looking back. Even tried mods since everyone says they’re better modded, but just found I was spending more time modding the games than playing them. Maybe Bethesda games just aren’t my thing.
I agree about Skyrim. The entire world feels dead, the npcs are lifeless. It’s really hard for me to feel the world and the story. The Witcher 3 came out only 4 years later and it’s several orders of magnitude better to me.
I agree wholeheartedly. I don’t feel like Bethesda has innovated with their RPGs in a single meaningful way since Oblivion. Every single game they make just feels buggy and samey, and the “systems” don’t make up for the synthetic quality. Games like Prey, Stalker, The Witcher, CP2077 or Elden Ring all take various approaches to the idea of open ended gameplay/questing/story/experience and they all do so many individual things better than Bethesda’s games. I’d rather play a game that gets a few things right, even if they falter elsewhere, than just doing a lot of everything “just okay.”
Here’s hoping Starfield does something genuinely refreshing.
