Hey everyone. If you want to post links or discuss the Reddit blackout, please localize it to this thread in order to keep things tidy!
This definitely feels like the D&D OGL fiasco. That got some big news. It felt like Reddit was the primary platform for organizing that boycott. It’s a shame that Reddit didn’t learn any lessons from WOTC.
Anyone else notice how friendly, calm, and civil the posts and discussions have been away from Reddit? This place reminds me a lot of the early days.
Interesting. The comments are now lagging well below normal. Here’s a screenshot from the blackout tracker. The red arrow shows how reddit is still spamming lots of new posts, but comments are much lower than usual. Normally, at the peak times, comments are at or even above the number of posts. Not today though.
Since the source graph gets wonky immediately before the crop, there’s not really enough here to compare against from the before-times (last week).
But what is here looks like a very large problem on the comment front, with each peak being lower than the last and and the latter two nadirs following the same pattern. The presumed “small number of power users” were having a noticeable impact more than 48 hours earlier. (and, hey … good on them for using 0 as the axis)
good on them for using 0 as the axis
They basically had to after today’s outage. Both almost dropped to 0.
Makes sense, posts can be (and are) automated via repost bots. Commente and genuine interaction is impossible to fake.
Genuine interaction is hard to take but there is definitely no shortage of bot comments or astroturfing in the comments
But if the only thing left in the comments section are obvious bots, even real users not planning to join in the Reddit blackout will start fleeing.
Yep. Expecting a lot of bot comments on bot reposts that are just copied portions of top comments on previous versions of that repost.
It had gotten to the point where I didn’t feel confident upvoting much at all anymore, because so many posts were automated content, and worse, more and more comments were just bots stealing contributions made elsewhere (or even further down in the same post) by actual people.
It’s only going to get worse now.
I really hope the fediverse is able to do something to safeguard against all that. Because if it’s not already testing the locks, it’s coming.
This is cool where did you find it? Or did you generate it?
Guessing it’s this: https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/
Thank you!
Thanks @Kushan@beehaw.org. That is indeed where I saw it. I forgot the link in my post.
Caught myself googling “something something Reddit” today and realized this is gonna be harder than I thought. Really liking it here though and hopefully this gets the user base up to a point I can start googling “something something beehaw”
Ask chatgpt what Reddit things about something something. It has probably scraped everything on Reddit anyway.
Scraped, but rearranged into a perfectly readable word salad.
Reddit, but through gourmet auto complete
As the other commenter said, this is also why I won’t give up reddit 100%
Yeah this is the main reason I won’t be giving up reddit 100% once the 3rd party apps go down. I definitely won’t be doom scrolling on my phone like I used to, but I 100% will still use reddit on my desktop as a research tool. There’s just nothing else like it for the amount of quality niche information atm.
If I’m forced to the official Reddit app, I’ll go from following 30+ subreddits to only 5 or 6. And even those, I’ll likely comment less on.
There are communities like /r/LEGO that I don’t know of a replacement for. (Maybe there could be a thread where people post the Reddit communities that they miss and people reply with alternatives. Someone could even keep a list to make it easy to search.
Made one for yah
Hero
I don’t know if you’ve ever tried the official app, but that strategy wouldn’t even help most likely. Every 3-5 posts that you see from your subscribed subs, they throw in a “recommended for you” nonsense post to try and drive your engagement. It’s infuriating
I’ve had multiple times when I launched Boost (my third party app of choice - at least until it’s forced to shut down) out of force of habit.
Thankfully, I planned for this eventuality. I installed a “focus” app and set it to block Boost and the Reddit app for 2 days. (I’ve since also moved the apps away from their usual spot on my phone to prevent launches.)
Ooooh man, I was searching up something earlier today and out of reflex I clicked a Reddit result. Felt icky once I realized where I ended up and went Back fast 😅.
It’ll be interesting to see if/how we’ll come to adapt to a more decentralized getup in time. I wonder how we might quickly search through all the public federated platforms at once? It’s gon’ get old fast to type
[x] site:beehaw.org OR site:lemmy.world OR [ad nauseum]
. I think it’d be cool if decentralized platforms got popular enough that search engines would add something likesite:!social.lemmy
.What’s interesting is that a bunch of subreddits have disappeared from my multis in Apollo, perhaps because they were dark for over a day? Not sure.
Just woke up and first thing I do was open Apollo (lol) and this is what I noticed.
Apollo shutting down completely is going to disrupt my life like crazy!
Trace it to the root of the problem, if the subreddits going dark took the servers down, then what made all the subreddits go dark 🤔
Hell, I’ll let this be my first comment; it’s on a different instance than my account to boot! I’m running into some issues with some of the newer instances not being federated; some of the subreddits I was hoping to replace here are unavailable as a result. Still, I’m happy enough to be a part of something new and different.
I have typed the letter “o” for “old.reddit” about six or seven times today out of habit. Thanks to the Beehaw team for providing a space which is better than a simple substitute in many ways. I am simply incapable of operating any of the newer reddit interfaces, so once “old.” is history that will be it for me totally.
Save and import:
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Is there a way for the extension to replace only the domain? for example, https://lemmy.ml/c/memes will become https://sopuli.xyz/c/memes ?
I’m totally not going through withdrawal.
Uh huh.
Deleted my account and took Apollo off my phone. My hands feel… itchy.
I deleted RiF in the line for the bagel shop this morning. I feel exactly the same way.
I’m doing the same on 6/30. I had to move Apollo off my front page to stop me from reflexively opening it every ten minutes.
I opened Apollo once and got a special splash screen. I moved Apollo off the front page of my phone display.
I just joined kbin and have no idea what i’m doing lol. ended up making this account on fedia and another on kbin.social since they can’t seem to see the same posts. not sure what to do long term…
Reddit kinda feels like a sinking ship right now. I wonder how many subreddits will go public again?
The NSFW community (lemmyNSFW.com) has exploded due to the blackout.
NSFW always seems to push technology forward, be it video streaming, or VR, or now federated link aggreagators.
Praise porn-Jesus, horny be his name.
Niche communities reign for now! I’ll wait to create an alt account until the influx dies down, but this is, uh … handy to know.
We’re trying to expand it to cover more topics currently
Are we blocked from seeing NSFW communities on Beehaw? (Not an issue, I would create an alt for that anyway. Just curious)
I have an account on lemmy.world and can see more NSFW communities while browsing all communities. IDK if that’s just a bi-product of them being more active or something beehaw does on their end and it just hasn’t caught up with the influx yet, but either way it’s fine with me. Beehaw ain’t about porn, I’m perfectly fine having a separate account somewhere that is more about it.
I can see it on mobile with jerboa so I don’t think so
I think so. I am not sure but I remember reading somewhere that beehaw blocked nsfw. There is a stickied SFW post on lemmyNSFW that is for linking NSFW communities to those who wouldn’t be able to see them.
I believe (could be wrong) that they just are against hosting NSFW communities on beehaw. You should still be able to view things from other instances if NSFW is enabled in your account settings.
Check your profile settings. There’s a nsfw setting in there that might be blocking you
Is Beehaw accepting donations for server costs? I can only imagine that the hosting bill is going to be preeeeeetty steep this month…
yes. you can donate here
Ooh wonderful, thanks for sharing!
Thank you! I’ll donate when I get paid this week.
We sure are, I think it should be in the sidebar but if it’s not, https://opencollective.com/beehaw
A one-time donation will help now, and with all the new users it seems like Beehaw needs some support now. A smaller but recurring monthly contribution would also help now and would add to a regular pool of funds which can allow Beehaw to be able to plan how to accommodate the larger community on a permanent basis. I think the community is worth having to wait through some of the strain right now, but I would like to contribute to infrastructure upgrades and maintenance so I have decided to make a recurring contribution.
David Revoy’s take on the Reddit situation: https://framapiaf.org/@davidrevoy/110532791930270318
Top quality, right there.
That’s excellent. Who is David Revoy?
A really good artist who’s been on Fedi far longer than most.
Ah. Thanks!
This is a fantastic idea, thank you.
yeah we hung with the flood of topics about this for a bit but it’s not super tenable (or desirable) on our end for every second post on our front page to be about reddit, lol
The rust subreddit is apparently considering moving to Lemmy:
r/programming is private even though I think a lot of the mods were reddit employees, I think even u/spez. what is going on lol
Rebellion
If the AMA taught us anything, it’s that spez doesn’t actually use reddit. Let alone understand it.
Spez is playing both sides so he comes out on top!