I’m really not happy with Lemmy so far. Its a great community and a cool concept, but the amount of bugs I am experiencing is really starting to put me off.

The site constantly updates / glitches, when I try click on something it moves just before I click so I end up clicking on something else. If I open a post, as soon as I go back the entire home feed is different and my sorting preferences have been reset.

As someone coming from the refinement from Apollo this really is offputting and makes me want to use Lemmy even less.

The people here are great, the federation is cool and I like how decentralized it is, but I think I’m going to log off now and I don’t expect to be back anytime soon.

Ps. A functioning app I can download directly from the app store would be great. I’m not interested in progressive web apps or testflight betas, I want something that just works and is well refined.

Edit: I understand its early days, I’m not faulting devs for not being able to keep up, all I am doing here is expressing my opinion. I’m also sad about losing Apollo so that definitely adds to my disappointment quite a bit if I’m being honest.

  • xiao@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    I understand you but…

    pls be patient, stay with us.

    Many skilled (and less skilled) people are working hard and cooperating to make Lemmy better week are week.

    (Pretty sure Aaron Swartz would have loved that)

    Love the project 😎

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    2 years ago

    I’m not sure if you will find much sympathy here. Many people (myself included) left Reddit because their policies and ethics now outweigh the benefits of a refined, smooth experience. Although, even that may be gone now if you’re switching from Apollo to the default Reddit app…

    The communities here have made any occasional glitches worth it for me.

    P.S. you can set your sorting preference under Settings.

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    2 years ago

    I guess I don’t notice any of this because I’m on jerboa. Haven’t had complaints with the app.

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      2 years ago

      It’s so close to the reddit apps It’s throwing me a loop. But yeah. Other than the hot feed bug It’s been ‘good’ for me

    • HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 years ago

      I’m actually having the opposite peoblem. Jerboa sometimes refuses to load communities citing java exceptions, and loading up a thread takes a long time. Browsing on PC has been fantastic, on the other hand.

  • AllYourSmurf@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    It’s very early. There are a lot of great ideas here, but also a lot of details yet to be worked out. Also lots of bugs.

    I wasn’t on Reddit in the early days, but I expect it had problems too. I know twitter did.

    If you’re a developer or have any skill in that area, I’d encourage you to contribute. If not, I’d ask for 2 things:

    1. Have patience and a bit of grace with the devs, operators, and mods, especially in these early days.
    2. Get active and talk about what you want and what’s not working for you.

    This is your chance to help make “Thing n+1” better than “Thing n”. Chances like that don’t come around very often.

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    2 years ago

    Most have been here less than a week. It will take time. The Fediverse was not created with the intention of toppling Reddit in one week. Many of the bugs that people have been complaining about are being fixed in the next release.

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      2 years ago

      100% agree. I will deal with bugs today because I can see the benefits of decentralization. Yes it’s buggy, but I know that we, the community, are fixing it. And that we are making the service better as users and not in some top-down decision making way.

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        2 years ago

        Also maybe it’s just me but I find people’s lack of patience to deal with a few bugs really strange. Yes I’ve come across bugs and intermittent connection issues but it’s not really the end of the world and knowing that the Devs and admins of each instance are working hard to keep things turning over is enough for me… I’ll just do something else for a bit. It was the same when Reddit would go down or what ever.

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    2 years ago

    Yup. It’s buggy and the native apps are pretty rough. I’m trying to give it a chance. I suspect the original Reddit was pretty rough too.

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      The original Reddit was definitely rough. But it was also an open source project and grew with time, until the company closed-sourced it in 2017 and went with the new redesign (which remains controversial with older redditors even now).

      Tbf the fediverse (and Lemmy & Kbin as Reddit alternatives) is in a very impressive state for something that has been fairly small scale up to now. It’ll improve faster given the increased interest and as new devs decide to pitch in. Early reddit was exciting and chaotic; its a good time to be on a site like this.

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        Agreed, the original reddit was rough, definitely much worse than Lemmy currently is now. For the amount of growth Lemmy has seen its holding up well, I just wish it was better. Maybe I’m impatient…

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      2 years ago

      it was pretty bad. I used it a bit before everyone left digg and it took a good while after that for it to feel “polished”.

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    Running any kind of social network / website (or whatever you call it) is messy.

    Content, traffic, servers and users - everyone knows the best.

    So I respect anyone who runs any instance and I don’t mind bugs etc. Twitter, FB, reddit they were also buggy and full of backend mess.

    So just don’t be upset because of bugs. Take it like a price for freedom for tech corp(s).

    OT: I’m paying for own email, vpn and others stuff every month so big techs have minimum info about me … I also have 6 browser and every single of them is for something.

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    2 years ago

    Understandable, maybe you can come back in the future when hopefully some of these bugs are ironed out and apps like Mlem are out of alpha.

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    2 years ago

    The real solution is for the developer of apollo to make it work as a lemmy client. You should probably let him know.

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    2 years ago

    I do have quite a laundry list of remarks for Lemmy too. The bugginess and lack of features is understandable. But it is quite centralized and I see a future where it will be more centralized the more users will join due to a bit of a fundemental flaw of federation.

    Maybe these problems will be fixable. I hope so, because I think it is a really cool concept. But I am not sure if I agree with the execution of it. I would love to contribute to this project if these problems are fixable.

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    2 years ago

    FWIW most of the glitches are in the official web UI, so using another UI (e.g. Jerboa on Android) fixes most of the issues.

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      2 years ago

      Yeah. I’m using the app it doesn’t have that updating issue. App is missing some features that the web has so I jump back and forth.

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    2 years ago

    I’m not using an app, but rather the site directly on a PC. I’ve been pretty happy with the experience so far, and it’s become something that I check regularly now. I’m looking forward to the communities becoming larger and having more content.

    Of course, I’m also looking forward to the mobile experience improving for others, too.

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    2 years ago

    You can’t really expect an amateur project led by 2 people (or 1 in case of kbin) to be comparable to a decade of reddit development. Even the Apollo app, that just built in top of other tech instead of having to reinvent the wheel, is at least 5 years old by now afaik.

    If you just care about convenience then reddit is still your best bet. If you have other concerns then you need to weight which one matters more.