The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don’t think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the “second in command”

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    Being openly bigoted isn’t a “political leaning” though, and it’s against lemmy.world’s code of conduct as stated on the sidebar link: https://mastodon.world/about

    Provide a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for everyone regardless of gender identity or expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, political affiliation, or other similar characteristic.

    No one is saying let’s ban conservatives. This discussion is about defederating an instance that seems to be crawling with alt-right trolls. I don’t understand why that would be a problem.

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      Like I’d hope that we wouldn’t follow in Reddit’s footsteps of tolerating alt-right bigotry

      Defederating isn’t like being fucking censored or whatever; it’s people deciding that they don’t want to be around you

      Basically near-every instance did this for Lemmygrad with zero complaint, so it’s fucking weird that there are so many people complaining now when it comes to an instance teeming with alt-right bigotry

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        Reddit didn’t tolerate alt-right bigotry. What are you on about?

        And yes, defederating is censorship. I had a burggit account because I liked the name, but then once they got defederated from everything, I needed to make a new account. That’s censorship.

        Lemmygrad, Exploding-Head and Beehaw are all safe-spaces and echo-chambers. They won’t wander outside their zone, which they haven’t. Find it hilarious you’re so huffy about the alt-right, but silent about multiple mods enabling pro-communist content.

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          Yes it did, until media brought attention to it, then they banned The Donald and Metacanada and these users just joined other subs where they spewed their poison with the admin’s blessing in the cases where mods from subs that got banned were also modding other subs that didn’t (metacanada mods also modding Canada).

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            And all of the tankie subreddits were never touched despite having the same content.

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              Almost like tankie subreddits weren’t gaming the Reddit vote system to push literal propaganda to the front page for years or something

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                Propaganda is the front page, my dude. Won’t deny T_D was shitty, fuck em, they deserved the ban-hammer for having an echo-chamber.

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                  I mean, yeah, but my point is more that they were uniquely shitty for actively fostering the echo chamber and regularly intentionally breaking containment onto All.

                  I distinctly remember in 2016 how many pro-trump posts would pop onto the top of All with thousands of T_D upvotes, because the mods would pin posts they’d want to rally behind to the top of the subreddit. It really wasn’t largely the same content.

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                    And all the alt accounts, bots and upvote scripts.

                    Anyways, modern frontpage has a ton of disguised ads anyhow.

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                Whataboutism is perfectly valid.

                Get your American politics out of your head when talking about global issues. Just makes you look ignorant.

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                  Not American, just pointing out that you needed to change the subject in order to come up with an argument.

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          Do not mistake inconvenience for oppression.

          That is NOT censorship. Everyone on that instance still has every opportunity to say whatever they’d like. Don’t cry over the fact that it’s not reaching as many people as you want it to.

          Obligatory XKCD about this topic.

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            So you’re pro echo-chamber? You also completely disregarded my point about having to make a new account.

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                How is having to make a new account in an entirely separate instance not censorship?

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                  …Because how is it censorship?

                  You can literally access all content available on every instance from any account.

                  Making an account is free and takes two minutes, I literally just did it.

                  You can comment on any content you’re federated with from any account.

                  You aren’t being suppressed from speaking at all.

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                    You can literally access all content available on every instance from any account.

                    No, you can’t. If an instance has one blocked, you can see it if you deliberately look for it by typing its URL or looking in Blocked Instances. But it won’t appear naturally in your feed, nor will you be able to see its users or interact with it.

                    That means it stops you from interacting with those blocked instances, even if you liked the content from said instances. See the problem now?

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          how about that whole span of time that r/the_donald was a subreddit lmao

          edit: it’s not censorship if you can easily move to another instance with little difficulty and just continue from there, with most of the same communities even

          people like you just think someone telling them that they don’t want to hear you is the same as being suppressed