I myself am really on the fence about this.

I hate what Reddit has done, as I was removed as a moderator on my sub. But I much prefer the UI to Lemmy so far. I’m also having a hard time understanding how this all works. I was familiar with Reddit, and it is obviously a way more active community.

But I also used Apollo and hate how they’ve done him so dirty.

Will you guys return if Reddit rights it’s wrongs?

  • OverfedRaccoon 🦝@lemmy.world
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    Spez is doubling down. He’s shown his hand. He’s lied. It’s like watching Anakin’s descent to the dark side. He’s too far gone.

    I don’t really think there is a going back. The watering hole is poisoned. There’s no more good faith. And, I think for a lot people, especially people here, it’s a matter of principle at this point.

    I might check in on certain niche subs that don’t move on to other platforms, but the days of gleefully doomsctolling are over.

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    Definitely not. Even if I get luke-warm on lemmy, Huffman has shown a complete disregard to the community and has completely pivoted to building the business. As soon as they introduced New reddit and bought AlienBlue, the writing was already on the wall.

    I’m not sure if lemmy/the fediverse has the legs to keep the community going indefinitely (i was around when Voat was absorbing the last reddit exodus, i’m hoping lemmy has more legs than that), but I think i’m done with these for-profit social media sites. Youtube is the last one (for me) that hasn’t burned that bridge, but I’m not a contributor there anyway. For being a link-aggregation website though, I feel like federations are a perfect fit.

    I’m old enough now that I can see myself not using social media at all… Jesus how did I get so old. Time to go buy a Miata and some aviators.

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      I’m not sure if lemmy/the fediverse has the legs to keep the community going indefinitely (i was around when Voat was absorbing the last reddit exodus, i’m hoping lemmy has more legs than that), but I think i’m done with these for-profit social media sites.

      What I’m hoping for, is that a portion of people that care and come to Lemmy stick with it, and those people that aren’t at all concerned with Reddits’s business dealings stick with Reddit. It gives each community a chance to develop it’s own voice, which is how it was before the major centralization of the web.

      I guess what I’m saying is, even if Lemmy doesn’t beat Reddit into the ground, Lemmy can still win in it’s own way.

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      I remember the Voat semi-exodus, but as I recall that was all the communities that got banned. Voat turned into a cesspool real quick

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        That was a big part of why they failed, yea.

        Federating seems like an excellent way of keeping the incels out, hopefully we don’t end up going that way

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          That’s what I was thinking, though I’m curious to see what tools instance admins have at their disposal

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            The fact that instances can limit the number of new users and de-federate with subs with lax rules helps a lot. Beehaw just did that themselves.

            I’d also point out that this exodus isn’t related with the banning of toxic communities from the platform, so I wouldn’t expect as many controversial new users to be flocking here as back then. We’ll see I guess.

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      Mastodon managed to become a viable alternative to Twitter, and even PeerTube found some semblance of success. I am condifent Lemmy will be able to do the same. I hope PixelFed since the last time I’ve checked as well.

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    I don’t plan on going back to Reddit in a major way. After giving Reddit up, I find myself thinking over my experience on that site for the last few years. Engaging commentary was harder and harder to find, particularly in any sub of sufficient size, and I spent a lot of my scrolling through Reddit angry. Leaving Reddit has been a wake up call for me. It’s a rat race on Reddit, and I don’t need that in my life anymore.

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    I was on Reddit 15 years and recently have been considering getting off the platform for other various reasons. All of the recent developments were just the final thing to push me to actually leave.

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      This was me, too. I was actively looking for alternatives already, this whole debacle just provided enough of a community on those alternatives for it to feel like a worthy time to switch. There’s nothing that will get me to go back at this point.

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      Same, but 14 years. Had followed mastodon some and read up on activity pub, but meanwhile I never used Twitter and liked how reddit reminded me of forums and bbs/usenet/email listservs before that.

      I definitely see how lemmy is rough around the edges, and I’m sure that will cause issues with any sort of mass long term reddit exodus, but personally I’m loving the experience, the dev community, the underlying philosophy, etc. & at least for the communities I’ve been following that decently high barrier to entry has uplifted most of the discussion (albeit while kneecapping niche or local or whatever discussion entirely because there isn’t a community for it)

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    sadly… yes. I’m just not finding the community here that I built up there over 11 years. I know, I know, give this 11 years and we’ll get there, too… but it’s still over there.

    I did the whole “delete all comments and posts and replace with the API reasoning text” thing, for my main and my few alts. BUt I find I still am heading over there on browser through old.reddit and lurking.

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      Same. I might stick around both for a while and see how it goes since I see big benefits and big drawbacks on both platforms. Same idea as why I use Plex instead of Jellyfin in that as much as I want to support open source projects, and am willing to pay a moderate amount to do that, the commercial platforms usually just have a better finish and feature set, as well as a simpler interface for people that don’t live in the tech world.

      That said, there’s maybe a dozen subreddits that I really care about, so if those communities came over I’d probably follow. Most of those aren’t populated by the kinds of tech enthusiasts that are looking for an open-source/distributed/etc. model, they’re people that just want to be able to talk about their niche hobbies or connect with others in their industry, regardless of what the back-end looks like. Honestly, I’d even be okay paying a reasonable amount to stick with Reddit(as it was last month, maybe not as it is today), it sounds like they just need to be more open to finding a solution that’s reasonable for the third party app developers instead of just laying down the hammer and them plugging their ears. Problem there though is I suspect the people that I like to engage with on Reddit aren’t the ones making a big impact on Reddit’s revenue. I suspect Reddit can go ahead and lose those high engagement users and still make bank on ad impressions from front-page lurkers, and that’s why they’re not looking to play ball.

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    I’m done. I moderated a very small, niche hobby sub for a bit over three years. The size and niche-ness kept it fairly well insulated from the worst online behaviors, but it’s been shifting this year. I have been seeing more and more users posting to the sub for the first time, simply pushing their content creator/influencer material on Insta and Youtube. Their posts are only vaguely related to the sub topic, and they never stick around to have meaningful conversations in the comments of their posts. When they violate the sub rules, I have a policy of warning once and removing only if they don’t respond within 24 hours. But even with a 24 hour warning, people get NASTY.

    I modded the community for the benefit of others. With the shift in sub demographics and reddit sweeping my legs out from under me in terms of mod tools that allow me to keep control of the sub, I’m done. I can’t keep it shaped into the community the original members want. They’re frustrated. I’m frustrated. It’s no longer fun or fulfilling. Someone who wants to keep the sub aligned with the wants of the new content creator/influencer demographics are welcome to it. Personally, I think a sub of people advertising their channels elsewhere is worthless.

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    Hell no.

    My issues with Reddit boil down to three: the admins, the mods, and the users. (Note: this is coming from a former Reddit user and mod.) Even if the admins turn 180°, the other two issues remain.

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    Nope. Not a chance. I have no love for giant corporations, and Reddit has always been particularly shit even by that standard. Say what you want about the evils of Meta / Google / Apple, ETC ETC ETC, but at least they generally try to keep their users happy, or at least using their platforms. Reddit just seem to have absolutely no idea what their users want half the time, Reddit premium anyone? The way they handled, or rather failed to handle, the accessibility issue also leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth.

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    Up until 3rd party app devs announced they’re converting their apps to Lemmy? Yes.

    Now, absolutely the fuck not. Reddit is a cesspool compared to when I first joined in 2013. Lemmy feels a lot more like reddit did then. It’s quaint and cozy here. Yes I’d like to see this place grow some more. But 1/10th the size of reddit would be plenty. Most reddit users don’t contribute anything useful anyways so no loss there.

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      The culture is so different. I’m glad Reddit made space for so many different people. But the changes to make it more ad friendly sucks. Also seeing pop culture stuff reach the top regularly is annoying I don’t care about celebrities.

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          Sure! It’s this one: https://einaregilsson.com/redirector/

          My rules are here (you can save them as a .json file an import in the extension):

          {
              "createdBy": "Redirector v3.5.3",
              "createdAt": "2023-06-20T20:58:57.278Z",
              "redirects": [
                  {
                      "description": "Bye, Reddit",
                      "exampleUrl": "https://www.reddit.com/",
                      "exampleResult": "https://lemmy.studio",
                      "error": null,
                      "includePattern": "https://*.reddit.com/*",
                      "excludePattern": "",
                      "patternDesc": "",
                      "redirectUrl": "https://lemmy.studio",
                      "patternType": "W",
                      "processMatches": "noProcessing",
                      "disabled": false,
                      "grouped": false,
                      "appliesTo": [
                          "main_frame"
                      ]
                  },
                  {
                      "description": "Bye, Twitter",
                      "exampleUrl": "https://twitter.com/",
                      "exampleResult": "https://2c.taoetc.org/",
                      "error": null,
                      "includePattern": "https://twitter.com/*",
                      "excludePattern": "",
                      "patternDesc": "",
                      "redirectUrl": "https://2c.taoetc.org/",
                      "patternType": "W",
                      "processMatches": "noProcessing",
                      "disabled": false,
                      "grouped": false,
                      "appliesTo": [
                          "main_frame"
                      ]
                  }
              ]
          }
          
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      I accidentally changed a setting on my phone that blocks Reddit everywhere. Not going to bother figuring out what I did or how to fix it.

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    Only if Spez leaves and is replaced by a decent CEO who reverses EVERYTHING that Spez has effed up in the past few years. I’d return for some small niche communities I participate on that aren’t present in the lemmy-verse (yet). But I’d stay here too. I am committed to Federated services now.

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    Nope, I’ve already deleted all of my comments and posts on a 10+ year old account. They can go straight to hell. Fuck them.

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    I think reddit model should be as a non profit org., something like wikipedia. No ads, no selling or trying to monetize user data, or being hostage to its investors whims. That would require a complete change of management. Only then I would think about going back.

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    No.

    Way too much trust has been lost for me to even consider going back to that place.

    Even if they completely remove and ban Steve Huffman and his family, fiends or even acquaintances from any and all company and/or subcontracted positions, completely overhaul all their positions and replace them with trustworthy people (sucks to be them, but they know what they’re getting into), add all the requested features overnight including and especially the accessibility features… I still won’t consider going back to them.

    They will need to exert a huge amount good faith effort over a span of a decade to earn back my trust, if they’re at all capable of doing things in good faith.