I had a vaush and breadtube stan tell me “why do we let tankies infiltrate the last leftist spaces??” (on a subreddit I moderate and have moderated as a tankie for more than a year).
Googling his nickname brought me to his twitter page, where he explained his “leftist journey”. He was a socdem in May, and less than 3 months later he’s now confident enough to identify as a libertarian socialist.
Dude is loathed by both marxists and anarchists but watching Vaush is apparently enough theory to get up in arms about the ebil tankies using leftist spaces.
This is, incidentally, my gripe about breadtube and why I made that post the the other day (also sorry for not answering anyone there, too many comments to answer everyone!).
Vaush is misleading hundreds of people and in his quest to appeal to reactionaries, he’s becoming one himself. If you spend time debating fascists and answering prageru videos (which is really the bottom of the barrel tbh), it’s time you’re not spending teaching socialism. Figures they would have a completely ahistorical, liberal view of socialism. (Also Vaush is a counter-revolutionary radlib that proudly exclaims he doesn’t read theory, there’s that too)
The only way to sustain such bullshit views is to actively not read theory, history or the movements of classes through history so I guess thats why he would exclaim that
Vaush on LGBT and Trans people: “The left community online, particularly the LGBT community, is cancerous as fuck” “You don’t have to be a psychologist to see that a large portion of the broader woket–d cancel-culture idpol left, is predicated on shared mental illness. This is particularly prevalent in the trans community. If you disagree with me on this, you’re wrong. […] These people are sub-human.”
There’s a subset of woke-liberal “leftists” who believe that because we Marxists actively read theory, that we’re not unlike preachers reading the bible and reject the idea that our scientific theory can be useful for their revolution. They very often actively oppose theory, equating it to theology and belittling it on their existing anti-theist basis. Vaush is one of those.
In reality, they’re upset that we’ve taken the time to formulate a set of scientific theories that can be tested in the world, and have decided that - because it’s not their theories, and because we adhere to the theories like good scientists - it’s something to be opposed and belittled on thinly-veiled anti-intellectual grounds. Often saying things like “real working-class people don’t have time to read” to make them seem like “real” leftists, and us seem like elitists with the privilege of time. Which, of course, is bullshit. Most Marxists I know who’re well-read did their reading while at their job. I used to work with someone who operated heavy equipment while reading theory.
I saw this in Chapo too. Whenever an unironic “read theory” post was made, some came out in defense of their aversion of reading saying “I don’t need to read theory. I am radicalised by my material conditions.”
So was your uncle, smartass. Now he blames <insert race> people for his problems.
Marxists actively read theory, that we’re not unlike preachers reading the bible
This makes no sense - not your fault - there’s, when ML are nominally agnostic/atheist, appose hierarchy. It would take some real mental gymnastics to arrive at this.
Most Marxists I know who’re well-read did their reading while at their job. I used to work with someone who operated heavy equipment while reading theory.
There’s even audio books & podcasts that dissect theory or where you can passively absorb ML theory - many of these sources are available on youtube et al., so fucking galling and ridiculous!
I had a vaush and breadtube stan tell me “why do we let tankies infiltrate the last leftist spaces??” (on a subreddit I moderate and have moderated as a tankie for more than a year).
Googling his nickname brought me to his twitter page, where he explained his “leftist journey”. He was a socdem in May, and less than 3 months later he’s now confident enough to identify as a libertarian socialist.
Dude is loathed by both marxists and anarchists but watching Vaush is apparently enough theory to get up in arms about the ebil tankies using leftist spaces.
This is, incidentally, my gripe about breadtube and why I made that post the the other day (also sorry for not answering anyone there, too many comments to answer everyone!).
Vaush is misleading hundreds of people and in his quest to appeal to reactionaries, he’s becoming one himself. If you spend time debating fascists and answering prageru videos (which is really the bottom of the barrel tbh), it’s time you’re not spending teaching socialism. Figures they would have a completely ahistorical, liberal view of socialism. (Also Vaush is a counter-revolutionary radlib that proudly exclaims he doesn’t read theory, there’s that too)
The only way to sustain such bullshit views is to actively not read theory, history or the movements of classes through history so I guess thats why he would exclaim that
So many left subreddits are just seasonal catalogues for Ideology™
Here’s what I got on him specifically.
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OK, I’m not familiar with breadtube, but how on earth does he justify that?
There’s a subset of woke-liberal “leftists” who believe that because we Marxists actively read theory, that we’re not unlike preachers reading the bible and reject the idea that our scientific theory can be useful for their revolution. They very often actively oppose theory, equating it to theology and belittling it on their existing anti-theist basis. Vaush is one of those.
In reality, they’re upset that we’ve taken the time to formulate a set of scientific theories that can be tested in the world, and have decided that - because it’s not their theories, and because we adhere to the theories like good scientists - it’s something to be opposed and belittled on thinly-veiled anti-intellectual grounds. Often saying things like “real working-class people don’t have time to read” to make them seem like “real” leftists, and us seem like elitists with the privilege of time. Which, of course, is bullshit. Most Marxists I know who’re well-read did their reading while at their job. I used to work with someone who operated heavy equipment while reading theory.
I saw this in Chapo too. Whenever an unironic “read theory” post was made, some came out in defense of their aversion of reading saying “I don’t need to read theory. I am radicalised by my material conditions.”
So was your uncle, smartass. Now he blames <insert race> people for his problems.
This makes no sense - not your fault - there’s, when ML are nominally agnostic/atheist, appose hierarchy. It would take some real mental gymnastics to arrive at this.
There’s even audio books & podcasts that dissect theory or where you can passively absorb ML theory - many of these sources are available on youtube et al., so fucking galling and ridiculous!