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Ironically, it’s the innocent-looking white boxes that are hellspawn devices of pure evil that will wiretap your house, force you into a subscription service and have a 2-year planned obsolescence timebomb in it.
Meanwhile anything that resembles an arachnid will let you do whatever you want, support every imaginable open standard, and work with community firmware that will still be supported a decade later.
So Jehovah’s witnesses vs Satanic Temple?
Jehovah’s witnesses have lasted more then 2 years sadly
Sadly indeed
If they also crawled around my living room floor I would probably buy two and make them fight each other over AP privileges. May the strongest signal win.
ceiling
I don’t think that is true for Wi-Fi 6 routers. Are there any open firmwares for those? Those bastards at TP-Link removed features after a firmware update and I no longer have any visibility to anything that is going on my network. It will be relegated to access point soon, if I don’t chuck it at a wall in spite, after I figure this opnsense thing out.
OpenWRT supports 70 devices with 802.11ax. 7 of them are TP-Link.
I haven’t tried any of these devices myself though.
Mikrotik have innocent enough boxes, although some are black but no subscription service, although it’s proconsumer so it’s not a easy device unless you know what are you doing or you watch a video for each thing you want to do 😅.
Microtik looks very expensive for what they offer. What are their actual advantages of something like an ASUS?
Try to get a carrier-grade router with 20 SFP+ cages from Asus, Mikrotik’s higher end plays in the same league as Cisco or Huawei.
Mikrotik’s lower-end hardware isn’t really much more expensive than what you get from Asus but runs the same carrier-grade software and will never, ever, let you down when it comes to things such as packet throughput. The reason you don’t see OpenWRT images often for their devices isn’t because they’re locked down but because people prefer their software.
Generally speaking I’ve found them to be far cheaper than similarly specced hardware, for the sfp+ and multigig hardware. (I’ve also seen benchmarks that show they can’t handle the same kind of total throughput though either)
For price-value I only knew of Ubiquity, which also offers these kinds of products at supposedly more reasonable prices than the majority of the market.
Mikrotik seems to be older than Ubiquity but hasn’t shown up on my radar for good value professional/prosumer equipment whereas Ubiquity has gotten a lot of hype a few years ago. I wonder what the difference is between the two
Maybe because you’re not European? Mikrotik is Latvian, Ubiquiti from the US.
I remember Ubquity making a huge impression on the scene being touted as “professional hardware for a better price”. I have never really heard that hype around Mikrotik. I’ll keep them in mind though
I’m not European either. I was just looking for cheap fast hardware. I have a ubiquiti access point, it beats the pants off anything else I’ve used before. That said, I will never buy ubiquiti management equipment because they keep having either security issues or outages that affect your ability to administrate the network in the same room.
Hail Sata full of cables. hollow be thy port.
Thy LAN has run, it will be fun, on the couch as it is up stairs.
Give us this day, our UDP, and forgive us our packet loss, as we forgive those who drop packets meant for us.
hollow be thy port
Cable’s unplugged bro
This is definitely the way
I like the UFO and Coke can designs personally.
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Nobody expects the University of Florence!
The AP shaped like a tallboy is a new one for me, actually
Average Ubiquiti enjoyer:
Great if you happen to be or know an electrician, drywall repair expert, and painter. For most of us this isn’t very practical though. I do wish that ceiling router ports were standard on new builds at least and if you didn’t want to use them you could plug in smoke alarms instead.
There’s nothing stopping you from just plopping these on a table somewhere.
The UFO has a pop-out notch on the rim so it can sit flat on a table or wall with a cable running out the side, and the can comes with multiple bottom attachments you can swap out depending on if you want it to rest on a table, be screwed into the side of something, or be mounted on top of a threaded bolt.
I just chose the images that showed the shapes off. It’s not the only way they can be used.
In my apartment my UFO is actually mounted to the little door of the in-wall network box, when the door is closed it points into the main portion of the apartment. Perfectly usable, and for pure speed the desktop is hardwired.
Huh? For most homes this is like, 1 tub of spackle, a sample of paint and a paper towel
or just buy cable anchors or raceway and run it outside the drywall?
Depending on how your home is constructed, installing ceiling mounted access points can be a lot easier than you might think.
Most of these APs are powered by Power over Ethernet, so they only require one cable for both power and data.
My current home is a bungalow, and installing multiple access points only required running some network cable round the loft and drilling a small hole in the ceiling for each AP - which mounts over the hole so it can’t be seen.
Yes, there are nice. Melts into the modern house.
I’ll take the ceiling mounted UFO instead.
That’s technically “rounded soft box” It’s completely round.
Or you could choose one with wings.
This one does have beam forming antennas. I don’t know if that feature helped, but this router works in my long narrow apartment in a congested area where other routers failed.
Isn’t that the Star Wars Imperial shuttle after it’s landed?
Of course, it isn’t like you would want to risk a force choking when Vader can’t get a wifi signal.
He can’t choke you through thick walls
Yeah he can. He can choke through space and ships as seen in episode 5 when they drop out of hyperspace too soon
That could be the one I was thinking of when I posted. I tried to find an image before posting because I was sure I’d seen a similar looking ship in Star Wars, but my image search skills are lacking.
looks like a manta ray
Yeah thanks for saying that, now I just see big man from Splatoon 3
It’s beautiful. Perfect device for an installation next to an aquarium.
The hawk wifi’s naturally beat the spider wifi’s signal noise making it superior.
Careful it doesn’t Wi-fly away when you leave a window open
That rounded white box is a POS At&T locked down fiber modem/router which they patch biweekly at 3am without your control because they don’t want people hacking their devices to change the DNS server or anything useful.
It wouldn’t be a problem if AT&T let you use your own fiber ONT but they don’t which is technically illegal but no one has sued them yet because they are a billion dollar company.
Thankfully the workaround is to grab a supported ONT, upgrade to 2.5g or higher fiber speeds so they are forced to use XGS-PON, then swap in your ONT with some cloned IDs and downgrade back to whatever plan you want. This all allegedly works because businesses that use AT&T as their ISP also don’t want to pay money for a proprietary piece of junk, and they have enough power to throw around to demand AT&T allow them to use their own fiber hardware.
I love having Google Fiber, they gave me a modem with one open RJ-45 port and said “have fun with the other side of this network”.
Google fiber still exists? Huh, I figured that would be another good project they kill off after a year or two
It’s only in certain areas, I live in Seattle and it’s in Seattle but not everywhere in Seattle.
There are total bypass options now to completely remove their hardware from your network using an ONT that lets you clone the att device serial number. Just a heads up.
Mind to direct me to the right direction on this? For academic purposes, of course.
https://discord.gg/8311-886329492438671420
Basically has all the documentation and links you need in one section because its made up of various forum posts and google docs lol.
I picture you whispering this at the full moon while sharpening a blade.
Oh hi. What XGS-PON device allows a cloned ID?
I’ve actually been looking for one forever.
Check here: https://discord.gg/8311-886329492438671420
The two most common are:
So you figured out you are on XGS-PON. I hope you love your speeds!
For XGS-PON, there are 2 devices that we currently support that allow for bypassing:
Azores WAG-D20 (now called the X1Z1E) ONT with a 10G Ethernet port
Where to Buy: https://www.balticnetworks.com/products/azores-1x-10gbe-1x-2-5gbe-intel-based-xgspon-ont
Our Documentation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13gucfDOf8X9ptkj5BOg12V0xcqqDZDnvROJpW5CIpJ4/edit#
Azores WAS-110 (now called the XSS) ONU in a SFP+ form factor
Where to Buy: [Wait for a group buy, it’ll be cheaper] https://ecin.ca/custom-xgs-pon-sfp-stick-module-xgspon-ont-w-t-mac-function-mounted-on-sfp-package/
Our Documentation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UIAgtxkImgFRwyaGDGtISD0JXnxWNvuuNDrnRac6wGc/edit#heading=h.f8l0utlsram6
There are notes and some people who have found others that work as well
Thanks, I like it. $200 is a bit steep for the SFP+ unit, but if I don’t have to deal with the ISPs modem nonsense, it’s probably worth it. I’ll probably check out the discord later.
“Does either model spy on me?”
“Yes.”
“Which one?”
“Yes.”
Depends on your firmware. You can install FreshTomato firmware on these things and enjoy a much better experience with many more features and higher stability.
The one on the right is ASUS, they make pretty good quality hardware and software and don’t spy on you, at least for what concerns routers.
You are talking about the same Asus that uses proprietary Trend Micro spyware on all its routers? At least it can be disabled, but by default it is enabled and spies on you
Yes. I thus recommend to flash Asuswrt-merlin. It is based on the stock Asus firmware, plus some features and minus some inconveniences as the one you mention.
I assume if it can be flashed it can take OpenWRT too? I like the aesthetic, but IDK I think I’d rather not support them at all if they put spying software on their stock installs.
I have a ASUS RTAX53U running OpenWrt 23.05.
Here you can find a list of devices supported by the current version.
Why dont you give me your Routers source code if you have nothing to hide, Asus?
They are obligated to publish the routers’ firmware source code under GPL-2 since it’s primarily based on Tomato and OpenWRT firmware.
You can find the respective source code on the Support page of every router, tab Driver & Utility > Driver & Tools > OS: Others.
If the version you find there does not match the last published firmware, you can send them an e-mail.
Like early wifi routers weren’t also stupid looking? I don’t think I have ever had one that fit properly anywhere because of their odd shapes and/or antennae, and I’ve had wifi since 98 or 99.
As an aside: While I was working for a WISP, I came into possession of some older Ubiquity antennas and I used a couple to blast my home network’s wifi across my small town so I could use wifi on my phone pretty much anywhere within 3 miles of my house. Shit was rad as fuck.
You’re right. That is rad as fuck.
Can I get the one on the right with four antenna and a black pyramid in the middle? “Ancient Spirits of Ethernet, transform this weak signal… to Wi-Fi, the Ever-Streaming!”
Your description makes me want to have a Stargate shaped one, where the status lights are the dialing symbols around the ring.
Fuck, chevron 4 locked again
Shall the Sphinx of Black Quartz Judge My Vow?
'member when this show was new, and our current technology was still in the realm of sci-fi?
That is as long ago right now as World War II was when that show first aired. 😳
Science!
The Elders of the Internet demand… a shrubbery!
I’ll take one satanic altar please
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I’ve got the corporate ubiquiti flying saucer in my house. It kind of irritates me, but it works.
Same.
If only they came in chromed hexahedrons… I would get one and obey it.
Serious question: Do the antennas actually make a difference?
Short answer no.
Long answer: Mimo designs benefit from different array configurations with known and well placed antenna spacing. So once you hit “good enough” there isn’t much of a benefit… But the loosy Goosy any direction antennas above the Xtreme routers… No, not at all
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Thank you
Best guess: each antenna is optimized for a different carrier frequency and splitting traffic between antennae allows the designer to use multiple, lower-cost parts on each data stream rather than a single, higher-cost part that can handle one antenna dealing with all the traffic.
Multiple antennae carrying the same frequency can make a difference, but consumer electronics where the end user has control over the angle of the Antennas likely isn’t precise enough to make use of the potential benefits.
If the antennae were very precisely positioned and had very precise phase offset, the full array could be used to have very tight control over polarization…which really doesn’t matter in a home wifi environment.
OR! It’s just for looks.
Thank you. I love it when I learn shit in meme threads.
Depends if they can be mapped to different channels/frequencies, then it’s possible you get more throughput assuming there isn’t some bottleneck elsewhere. afaik more antennae for the same connection, at essentially the same location, doesn’t make a difference
Thank you
I have the satanic modem
I have both. The white soft one is Comcast’s shit forced into bridge mode, and the satanic altar is mine. Had to take their modem/gateway to get unlimited data from them.
