No one was inside a Waymo car as it was destroyed.

A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco::A Waymo car was destroyed in San Francisco as a crowd began vandalizing it and ultimately set the car on fire. Nobody was in the vehicle at the time.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    15·
    11 months ago

    Yes. I never said that those things have no place.

    Then why trash an autonomous taxi?

    Then either they should have a bus station in walking distance or be covered by a collect taxi service.

    Lol. You do not understand the distances involved.

    The average human is not a good driver. You have to compare performance, and not just safety but also route efficiency, flexibility to unforseen events etc. not against the average driver, but professional taxi drivers.

    Until we live in your made up fantasy world where the only drivers allowed on the road are professionals, then sure. But we’re not, we’re discussing real world performance today.

    Why the fuck don’t they live at the farm.

    Because they’re not farmers, try and keep up with the conversation.

    What’s it with USians trying to make everything as hard for themselves as possible.

    I’m not American, and it took literally thousands of years of development to turn Europe into what it is today, so maybe try and have some perspective on the feasibility of your “solutions”.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        13·
        11 months ago

        You mean why did homeless people trash an autonomous taxi?

        Uh, you can watch the video, it wasn’t homeless people.

        So if you work at a farm, but are not a farmer, you can’t live there? You are legally required to have a 20km commute based on a law to preserve the integrity of farm life or something? What kind of bullshit is that.

        Again we’re not talking about people who work on farms. We’re talking about people who work in farming communities in jobs that are necessary to support farmers. Most of them don’t even work on a single farm but service multiple farms. Stop trying to act like you understand country life well enough to reshape it, you’re just as arrogant as every European colonizer before you.

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
            12·
            11 months ago

            Elsewhere in the thread someone who knows the city well better than me (or probably you) said that it’s an area known for mobile home encampments. Yes, that’s homelessness

            It was in Chinatown during a Chinese New Year’s celebration. I’m done with this conversation. You seem to want to believe that the rest of the world will magically densify into Europe faster than we’ll develop self driving cars that are safer than human drivers.

            Good luck! I mean that earnestly, because it would be a better future, but I also don’t mean it remotely earnestly because that’s not how the world works and that’s not going to happen. That’s a problem that is solved on a generational timescale. Self driving cars is a couple decade timescale.

              • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
                12·
                11 months ago

                You won’t recognise the city in 10 years, it’d totally transform, very much for the better.

                Bruh, it takes ~10 years to plan and build a single major infrastructure project in America. Again, the timelines you’re talking about are nonsensical. Yes, building out transit and reorienting communities like that is the ultimate solution, but the idea that that will happen so much and so extensively that we’ll have no need for autonomous cars in even 20 years is absolutely absurd and detached from reality.

                  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
                    11·
                    11 months ago

                    That’s probably all news to you,

                    No, I have youtube as well, it doesn’t make you a genius.

                    presumably because the techbro scene isn’t interested in things actually moving forward, what you’re interested in is jerking off to gadgetry, not public transport.

                    Lol. I’m interested in reducing our millions of road deaths in whatever way possible. You’re interested in jerking yourself off in the fuck cars subreddit cause it sounds simple and edgy and you’re frustrated.

                    It’s not “I’m interested in public transport, therefore I like autonomous cars”, it’s “Autonomous cars are cool, let’s find ways to shoehorn them into everything”.

                    It’s “let’s not be dumbasses and trash autonomous cars on the off chance your public transit paradise doesn’t materialize”.

                    So, gain: Please tell me how you’re going to make it so that burger flippers can afford those autonomous cars within 20 years. Tech won’t solve that issue. Public transport circumvents it completely.

                    They literally can through a taxi service that splits the costs amongst users, called Waymo. Car shares also already exist. The cost of sensors and computers will also come down both through mass manufacturing and technological improvements (like solid state lidar).

                    Honestly, let’s make a bet and check back in 20 years, does your public transit paradise exist or maybe just maybe, the actual political and infrastructure realities of the US mean that cars still exist?