No one was inside a Waymo car as it was destroyed.

A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco::A Waymo car was destroyed in San Francisco as a crowd began vandalizing it and ultimately set the car on fire. Nobody was in the vehicle at the time.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    12·
    11 months ago

    You won’t recognise the city in 10 years, it’d totally transform, very much for the better.

    Bruh, it takes ~10 years to plan and build a single major infrastructure project in America. Again, the timelines you’re talking about are nonsensical. Yes, building out transit and reorienting communities like that is the ultimate solution, but the idea that that will happen so much and so extensively that we’ll have no need for autonomous cars in even 20 years is absolutely absurd and detached from reality.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        11·
        11 months ago

        That’s probably all news to you,

        No, I have youtube as well, it doesn’t make you a genius.

        presumably because the techbro scene isn’t interested in things actually moving forward, what you’re interested in is jerking off to gadgetry, not public transport.

        Lol. I’m interested in reducing our millions of road deaths in whatever way possible. You’re interested in jerking yourself off in the fuck cars subreddit cause it sounds simple and edgy and you’re frustrated.

        It’s not “I’m interested in public transport, therefore I like autonomous cars”, it’s “Autonomous cars are cool, let’s find ways to shoehorn them into everything”.

        It’s “let’s not be dumbasses and trash autonomous cars on the off chance your public transit paradise doesn’t materialize”.

        So, gain: Please tell me how you’re going to make it so that burger flippers can afford those autonomous cars within 20 years. Tech won’t solve that issue. Public transport circumvents it completely.

        They literally can through a taxi service that splits the costs amongst users, called Waymo. Car shares also already exist. The cost of sensors and computers will also come down both through mass manufacturing and technological improvements (like solid state lidar).

        Honestly, let’s make a bet and check back in 20 years, does your public transit paradise exist or maybe just maybe, the actual political and infrastructure realities of the US mean that cars still exist?

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
            11·
            11 months ago

            Why are you so insistent on rubber on asphalt over steel on steel? Automation is much easier and further along on tracks. Why such a fanboy for private capital over the freedom of a municipality to come together and solve a problem in a cheap and affordable way?

            Lol, you so insistently want to believe that I’m a car loving tech bro that you’re literally not reading anything I’m writing.

            I’m pro public transit, I agree that it’s more efficient and produces better cities and communities than ones built around cars, I tend to vote socialist, and don’t own a car and have no love for them or what they’ve done to society, however, I’m just not delusional about how long it takes to a) built enough mass transit that people don’t need cars and b) move everyone to live and work near that mass transit and c) to solve for every edge case like the elderly, people driving out to remote cottages, deliveries, the sick and elderly, getting around in inclement weather, etc.

            Even if you had the public and political willpower to enact those changes (which you very very very clearly don’t), it would still take longer to do all of that, by like an order of magnitude, then it will to improve self driving cars and make them widely available. Self driving cars we’re talking like a decade, the kind of societal changes you’re describing take a generation. You literally have to wait for every suburban stick in the mud to be willing to move out of their home or die before you can achieve your car-free dream.

              • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
                11·
                11 months ago

                It’s you who’s lobbying against them

                Learn how to read.

                How about “hey why are the Mormons of all people more progressive than our city”, instead?

                Learn how to read.

                Also for an purported supporter of public transport you ripped into /r/fuckcars quite a lot.

                You can support something and also think that others who support that thing are childish and naiive.

                WTH are you even doing over on the snoo site.

                I didn’t even say I was on it, I implied that you were childish like they were. Learn how to read.

                No. Railcar suburbs once existed and existing car-dependent single-home suburbs can be turned into them by, as I already explained, densifying around the stations. Which has been done, and is being done, and would come soon also to your city if you bothered to argue for it.

                Learn how to read.

                As to me personally: I never owned a car. Never needed one.

                I didn’t ask and I don’t care.

                  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
                    1·
                    11 months ago

                    Yeah that’s not how to argue. What am I supposed to read in that context? You’re deflecting.

                    It means reread what you wrote and then reflect on what might have already been explicitly contradicted. Maybe reflect on what I’ve said about my political views instead of injecting the car loving stereotype you’ve made up.

                    No, it’s not a dream. No, I’m not living in the city centre, either.

                    Congratulations bro. There are still cars all around you and you would still be safer if they were autonomous.