No one was inside a Waymo car as it was destroyed.

A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco::A Waymo car was destroyed in San Francisco as a crowd began vandalizing it and ultimately set the car on fire. Nobody was in the vehicle at the time.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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    11 months ago

    That’s probably all news to you,

    No, I have youtube as well, it doesn’t make you a genius.

    presumably because the techbro scene isn’t interested in things actually moving forward, what you’re interested in is jerking off to gadgetry, not public transport.

    Lol. I’m interested in reducing our millions of road deaths in whatever way possible. You’re interested in jerking yourself off in the fuck cars subreddit cause it sounds simple and edgy and you’re frustrated.

    It’s not “I’m interested in public transport, therefore I like autonomous cars”, it’s “Autonomous cars are cool, let’s find ways to shoehorn them into everything”.

    It’s “let’s not be dumbasses and trash autonomous cars on the off chance your public transit paradise doesn’t materialize”.

    So, gain: Please tell me how you’re going to make it so that burger flippers can afford those autonomous cars within 20 years. Tech won’t solve that issue. Public transport circumvents it completely.

    They literally can through a taxi service that splits the costs amongst users, called Waymo. Car shares also already exist. The cost of sensors and computers will also come down both through mass manufacturing and technological improvements (like solid state lidar).

    Honestly, let’s make a bet and check back in 20 years, does your public transit paradise exist or maybe just maybe, the actual political and infrastructure realities of the US mean that cars still exist?

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        11·
        11 months ago

        Why are you so insistent on rubber on asphalt over steel on steel? Automation is much easier and further along on tracks. Why such a fanboy for private capital over the freedom of a municipality to come together and solve a problem in a cheap and affordable way?

        Lol, you so insistently want to believe that I’m a car loving tech bro that you’re literally not reading anything I’m writing.

        I’m pro public transit, I agree that it’s more efficient and produces better cities and communities than ones built around cars, I tend to vote socialist, and don’t own a car and have no love for them or what they’ve done to society, however, I’m just not delusional about how long it takes to a) built enough mass transit that people don’t need cars and b) move everyone to live and work near that mass transit and c) to solve for every edge case like the elderly, people driving out to remote cottages, deliveries, the sick and elderly, getting around in inclement weather, etc.

        Even if you had the public and political willpower to enact those changes (which you very very very clearly don’t), it would still take longer to do all of that, by like an order of magnitude, then it will to improve self driving cars and make them widely available. Self driving cars we’re talking like a decade, the kind of societal changes you’re describing take a generation. You literally have to wait for every suburban stick in the mud to be willing to move out of their home or die before you can achieve your car-free dream.

          • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
            11·
            11 months ago

            It’s you who’s lobbying against them

            Learn how to read.

            How about “hey why are the Mormons of all people more progressive than our city”, instead?

            Learn how to read.

            Also for an purported supporter of public transport you ripped into /r/fuckcars quite a lot.

            You can support something and also think that others who support that thing are childish and naiive.

            WTH are you even doing over on the snoo site.

            I didn’t even say I was on it, I implied that you were childish like they were. Learn how to read.

            No. Railcar suburbs once existed and existing car-dependent single-home suburbs can be turned into them by, as I already explained, densifying around the stations. Which has been done, and is being done, and would come soon also to your city if you bothered to argue for it.

            Learn how to read.

            As to me personally: I never owned a car. Never needed one.

            I didn’t ask and I don’t care.

              • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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                11 months ago

                Yeah that’s not how to argue. What am I supposed to read in that context? You’re deflecting.

                It means reread what you wrote and then reflect on what might have already been explicitly contradicted. Maybe reflect on what I’ve said about my political views instead of injecting the car loving stereotype you’ve made up.

                No, it’s not a dream. No, I’m not living in the city centre, either.

                Congratulations bro. There are still cars all around you and you would still be safer if they were autonomous.

                  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
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                    11 months ago

                    Nah I don’t think you’re a petrol head, I think you’re a techbro. I’ve accused you of it amply, and you have never even tried to give off any other impression.

                    Well like I said, you’re a dumbass who judges people on stereotypes in their head instead of reading what they wrote so go fuck yourself for thinking you know literally anything about me.

                    If you think I’m a tech bro I will repeat what I’ve already said, learn how to fucking read. Jesus fucking Christ you’re an idiot.

                    Statistically speaking I’m vastly more likely to fall off a ladder changing a lightbulb than getting hit by a car. But I’m sure you have a technology for that, too… don’t you?

                    First of all, about ~300 people die from ladder falls a year in the US, and ~35,000 people die from traffic incidents, so no, you absolutely fucking are not more likely to die from a lightbulb unless you’re a shut in obsessively changing their light bulbs every 3 months.

                    Second, engineers invented these little things called LED light bulbs, and you only have to change them once every 10-15 years instead of a couple times a year. There are also these little things called fall arrests harnesses that are mandatory for all up high work in any commercial or industrial setting. And guess what, engineers even invented light bulb changing poles so you never have to be up high.

                    Now that we’re done with your dumb analogy that you didn’t think through, back to the topic at hand, as long as cars exist, they will be safer if they’re self driving, so present your plausible plan for getting all of the world to give up cars in the next let’s say even 20 years, or shut. the. fuck. up.

                    And thanks for the reminder that even people with extremely similar political views to me, can be arrogant dickbag idiots.