A prominent critic of President Vladimir Putin, Navalny, 47, spent his final months behind bars as the Russian leader reshaped the country to rally behind his war in Ukraine.
The motherfucker was a real believer in… whatever variation of a liberal-fash ego trip he made up for himself. The russian state and judicial system fucked with him at every point of his attempt to stir the public or participate in politics and for some fucking reason he kept pushing his luck.
Then they poisoned him with chemical weapon grade poison and almost killed him, then he got offered one last possible exit from ANGELA MERKEL herself. And he just went back. Commited to the bit till the end.
Googling that just brought up weird ass crank pages. Not that gang, sorry.
Not that I don’t enjoy a good intelligence conspiracy, but I’ll go with Occam’s razor here. Russians poisoning a rowdy russian political activist with good old russian warcrime chemicals is as good as any explanation.
If Nalvany was poisoned this time it was almost certainly Russia, but I could also just see him dying. He’d already been poisoned, had complained about being denied outside food (and possibly wasn’t eating a lot of what they gave him for fear of being poisoned), had complained about the conditions etc. Not a combination that’s very conducive to good health.
As for whether MI6 or someone else could have done this sort of thing in the past and had the capability… also almost certainly.
I remembered this Channel 4 News fact check from after the Skripal poisonings here. The whole thing is an interesting read but main relevant points in broad terms are:
Basically any country with a chemical weapons program (including ‘defensive’ like everyone claims - in reality there is no difference) could make Novichok and similar agents usually linked to Russia. All it takes is time, effort, and the right lab. In fact, any country would want to do so at the very least to classify it, add it to a database, and work on potential protections.
One of its original chemists released information on its compound and processes publicly in the 90s. Russia eventually jailed him, but there’s no way foreign intelligence didn’t already have more than he published.
In the mid-90s the US involved itself in a ‘clean up’ operation at a site in Uzbekistan where various strains of Novichok were allegedly made, so probably had direct access to the work.
That being said, I think the Salisbury poisonings were probably Russia too given the evidence that came out over time. Not that another explanation is impossible.
Also, the history of Porton Down and the UK’s involvement in various off-book chemical weapon related stuff is long and extremely dark and shady - from Anthrax attacks, to the black market, to our probable involvement in the Apartheid regime’s genocidal chemical warfare programme Project Coast.
Surely it’s a rule that you shouldn’t return to the country you think tried to poison you
Feels like this is the only lesson from this.
The motherfucker was a real believer in… whatever variation of a liberal-fash ego trip he made up for himself. The russian state and judicial system fucked with him at every point of his attempt to stir the public or participate in politics and for some fucking reason he kept pushing his luck.
Then they poisoned him with chemical weapon grade poison and almost killed him, then he got offered one last possible exit from ANGELA MERKEL herself. And he just went back. Commited to the bit till the end.
Absolutely epic, this has convinced me to abandon Communism
Mmmm that’s good shit. Pure uncut
Not if you’re the “MI6 did it both times to frame Russia” gang
Googling that just brought up weird ass crank pages. Not that gang, sorry.
Not that I don’t enjoy a good intelligence conspiracy, but I’ll go with Occam’s razor here. Russians poisoning a rowdy russian political activist with good old russian warcrime chemicals is as good as any explanation.
I am totally convinced that Britain has the chemicals (the US too) for cases like this, though Navalny was almost surely a true Russian attempt
If Nalvany was poisoned this time it was almost certainly Russia, but I could also just see him dying. He’d already been poisoned, had complained about being denied outside food (and possibly wasn’t eating a lot of what they gave him for fear of being poisoned), had complained about the conditions etc. Not a combination that’s very conducive to good health.
As for whether MI6 or someone else could have done this sort of thing in the past and had the capability… also almost certainly.
I remembered this Channel 4 News fact check from after the Skripal poisonings here. The whole thing is an interesting read but main relevant points in broad terms are:
That being said, I think the Salisbury poisonings were probably Russia too given the evidence that came out over time. Not that another explanation is impossible.
Also, the history of Porton Down and the UK’s involvement in various off-book chemical weapon related stuff is long and extremely dark and shady - from Anthrax attacks, to the black market, to our probable involvement in the Apartheid regime’s genocidal chemical warfare programme Project Coast.
i don’t buy it either even though i’m still on the “prigozhin was a psyop” train
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