“It’s so hard to get movies made, and in these big movies that get made — and it’s even starting to happen with the little ones, which is what’s really freaking me out — decisions are being made by committees, and art does not do well when it’s made by committee,” she added. “Films are made by a filmmaker and a team of artists around them. You cannot make art based on numbers and algorithms. My feeling has been for a long time that audiences are extremely smart, and executives have started to believe that they’re not. Audiences will always be able to sniff out bullshit. Even if films start to be made with AI, humans aren’t going to fucking want to see those.”

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      Is it some sort of scam where they have to make the movie or they lose the rights to them? I can’t think of any other reason for shit like Morbius.

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        Yep. If you watched madam web you will clearly know how bad the movie looks. The spider lotus fan film is better than madam web. That’s how bad it is. Morbius atleast had decent visuals.

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          How long will I have to wait before someone says “it’s webbin time” cause i don’t think I can handle that kind of disappointment

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            It won’t happen. Don’t worry. Tbh there’s a chance where the morbius meme might’ve been an advertisement by sony. Or maybe they jumped onto it after seeing potential that they even re released it the 2nd time lol. It failed. So they won’t do that shit again. Small conspiracy but the amount of time the meme/shitpost lasted makes me suspicious.

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              There were people saying they should keep posting the meme long enough that Sony thought the film was going to do better if they released it again, and then no one should go and see it, and then that’s exactly what happened, so at least part of it was down to people like that stopping once they’d got what they wanted.

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          The visual effects at times were good but those moments were rare. The first appearance of Las Arañas was awful - the costume design and effects totally put me off. It had so much potential but Sony didn’t commit to making this film. They phoned it in and ruined the introduction of an influential character in the comics.

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            Tbh I never saw the potential. For me it was clearly another quick cashgrab or a money laundering project from sony. I honestly think there should be a way for actors to sue production companies over their atrocities called movies.

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        Yeah that’s why Fox used to keep endlessly making X-Men movies, and why Fantastic Four kept getting sequels and reboots.

        I think Marvel has the rights back to those now though.

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      But when they get it right they really get it right. The whole Miles Morales storyline came out of no where and fucking exploded.

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        In my mind it was great because it was an animation and execs think anime is dumb, so they won’t meddle with it. If they ever make a live action Miles Morales story it’s going to suck.

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          It’s also by the Lego Movie guys who Sony doesn’t want to piss off because they really don’t have any other hot creators in their corner anymore.

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          They saw the success and decided to meddle with the second one. Which is why they absolutely had to spend a whole minute on the spiderman pointing meme.

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          I think it’s also because prior he was less known Spidey, whereas the others are kinda overused at this point.

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            I think it proves it’s time for Warner Brothers to get their heads out of their asses and do Batman Beyond .

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              Oooooh. Yeah I’ve had too much Batman live action but I could totally do an animated movie, and DC is generally a lot better at animated.

              But, only of the use Hamill for the Joker!

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                Dude, Batman Beyond was so good. The premise, the villains, everything. But for some idiotic reason, they won’t use it.

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      I was originally thinking about this while looking up some background actor.

      Like, for many of these folks, these shitty movies pay bills. Many aren’t living a life of luxury. And if you get chosen for a Sony superhero film, And the pay is good, why not take it?

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          I can eat, keep the lights on, and have enough left over to not worry for a little bit. Otherwise I can starve on someone else’s principles.

          There’s nothing morally wrong with being in a bad movie. Even if you meant artistic integrity (which is what I really assume) there has always been a lot of bad art (music, movies, plays, paintings, books, whatever) produced. There’s no shortage of people who want to be a part of that for reasons ranging from surviving to having a good time.

          If you don’t like something, don’t watch it, read it, listen to it, or look at it. Don’t accuse others of not having integrity just because you can’t fathom why they do what they do.

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        The Spider-verse movies are some of the best comic book movies ever made. Sony should, um, maybe make more of those best movies ever made.

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        Honestly the DC animated movies are mostly great. Not high art or amazing, but fun superhero films.

        My guess is that the animated department has way less oversight

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        While I understand that opinion. I think low stakes, or a non tentpole movie. If it’s big enough to make some executive look good, they’re bound to stick their soulless noses in and screw shit up.