During Biden’s speech, Nikoui could be heard yelling, “Abbey Gate, Abbey Gate” at approximately 10:15 p.m. ET. Abbey Gate is the entrance to Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, where a single explosive device was detonated by an ISIS-K terrorist. The blast killed 13 U.S. service members and at least 170 Afghans.
I dont understand what his protest was for. I’m sure there is extreme emotional duress from losing a child that recently, but what was the goal or message here?
Make Biden look bad.
Made himself look like a fool who cares more about politics than the death of his son to me.
I’d give him a break due to his grieving, but honestly, it’s pathetic that he would let his love for his son be manipulated for political points.
He was literally trying to use his son’s death to help the man who gave the orders that got his son killed.
Conservatism seems, in my estimation, to be invariably vague in its ideology. Nothing is truly valued beyond the narrative.
The narrative isn’t even valued. How many times does Trump say something and then pretend he never said it. Or other members of the GOP say “I don’t think he really means that”. All that’s valued is pissing off the liberals by being arrogant, loud jerks.
None of the people on the right seem to know that Trump negotiated that deal.
Turns out the moderators of this forum are in this group. Read the other comment chains here.
Was his goal necessarily to help Trump?
True, I’ve assumed too much. It just falls right in that Fox news narrative from 2 years back they were doing a lot.
Guess he’s a Russian now too.
Biden bungled the evacuation of Afghanistan leading to deaths.
Biden wasn’t involved in the Afghanistan pullout, actually. That was definitively Trump.
They let Mods use mod profiles to spread misinformation in this sub?
Wow.
Edit:
Moving the relevant bits from Wikipedia above the debate so people will have a frame of reference.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–2021_U.S._troop_withdrawal_from_Afghanistan
The United States Armed Forces completed their withdrawal from Afghanistan on 30 August 2021, marking the end of the 2001–2021 war. In February 2020, the Trump administration and the Taliban signed the United States–Taliban deal in Doha, Qatar,[7] which stipulated fighting restrictions for both the US and the Taliban, and provided for the withdrawal of all NATO forces from Afghanistan in return for the Taliban’s counter-terrorism commitments. The deal, and then the Biden administration’s final decision in April 2021 to pull out all US troops by September 2021 without leaving a residual force, were the two critical events that triggered the start of the collapse of the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF).[8
Trump signed us up for it, and Biden was right that it needed to be done, but the execution of it was a travesty and that was absolutely on Biden.
I know, I know, it’s not like Biden planned every last detail of it, but when you say something idiotic like:
“There’s going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy in the — of the United States from Afghanistan. It is not at all comparable.”
Source:
Then this happens:
And this:
Followed by this:
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/kabul-falls-to-taliban-us-withdrawal
and this:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/05/taliban-afghanistan-arms-dealers-weapons-sales-terrorism/
Yeahhh… not a good look.
Opinion pieces and YouTube videos. Nice sources. It’s some real irony at work as you scrub other peoples content on the sub for including video links. The last one is literally directly a result of Trumps orders, and that is the most credible link you shared. You are spreading misinformation.
What changes to Trumps Afghanistan retreat did Biden implement?
All Trump did was agree to the removal and set the timeline. The actual EXECUTION of the removal was on Biden because, by the time it actually came to get out, Biden was the commander in chief.
He SHOULD have evacuated all civilians and Afghani assets first, he failed to do that, even when Guam stepped up and offered to assist going “Hey, you know we’ve done this before, right?”
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/guam-was-ready-to-help-relocate-afghans-biden-ghosted/
Biden was told, ahead of time, “this is what needs to happen”, he ignored it.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/04/politics/afghanistan-siv-bipartisan-letter/index.html
Once you evacuate all the civilian assets, you remove all the gear and equipment you can, then you burn the rest.
THEN you bring the troops home.
Point for point, Biden screwed it up, and when he gets called out on it, his argument is “Well, hey, we had to leave…” and while he’s not wrong in that, the priority and methodology was fucked from the ground up.
So Trump gave shitty orders during a time he couldn’t provide oversight, and that is Bidens fault.
Sure, dude.
When asked what changes to Trumps orders Biden made, you change the topic.
Bad faith bullshit.
Trump gave NO orders for the evacuation. He agreed to evacuate and to the timeline.
The actual ORDERS were left to Biden, because when the time came, Trump was out and Biden was in.
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Sorry cited facts don’t matter to you.
Insulting another user gets your comment removed.
Insulting a mod gets you a 24 hour ban.
Touch grass.
The father of a U.S. Marine who was killed at Afghanistan’s Kabul airport in 2021 as America pulled out of the country was arrested by U.S. Capitol Police officers for disrupting the State of the Union address
Meanwhile, Marjorie Taylor Greene gets a pass…
