• frickineh@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I am considered radical in this country (and probably pretty moderate in a lot of Europe) but even if I was the most milquetoast centrist, I think I’d still find that terrible. It’s amazing that he can still surprise me with what a piece of shit he is.

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      It’s amazing that he can still surprise me with what a piece of shit he is.

      I agree, it’s like a super power in a way.

      For me at least, what makes it continue to be surprising is that he says these things and still retains his supporters. And when I hear he said something newly shocking, I know without having to ask that those supporters will still be there. So it’s not just that one person could be such a piece of shit, but that so many could agree with one.

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        That’s why I have zero tolerance for the idea that we should just be able to disagree politely about politics and still be friends afterward. Sure, if the disagreement is about how much of a city’s budget should go toward parks vs. street maintenance or something, but when “some people aren’t really people because they’re from another country” is the politics, that’s gonna be a hard no for me. Trump supporters contribute nothing positive to politics (and probably not much to the world, considering how they view it) and I’m not interested in some fake ass “dialogue.”

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          Yes. There are many political cartoons out there that are like

          KKK/Nazis/Republicans: "The blacks/Jews/non-whites are not people

          Left: “they’re people. All people deserve respect and dignity”

          “”“Centrist”“”: "wow I can’t tell you two apart " / “surely we can compromise. maybe kill half?”


          Many people were taught “everyone is entitled to their opinion” and only learned that in the most naive way. They take it as “I can believe what I want, no matter what, and you have to accept that”.

          Many people are quite stupid. I don’t mean ignorant. I don’t mean they don’t know stuff. I mean stupid. I mean they look at a set of facts and draw bad conclusions. They see more black people being arrested and go “blacks must do more crime” and don’t even consider “is enforcement equal?” or other confounding factors.

          But idiots still vote. And carry guns

          So I don’t know what the solution is.

          Probably remove all conservatives from power, first. Invest more in education. Prevent consolidation of power in the hands of the wealthy.

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      If you don’t find this terrible, I can point out exactly where you are in the spectrum.